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'A fundamental security failure': How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?
NBC News ^ | July 14, 2024 | Jon Schuppe, Janelle Griffith, Rich Schapiro and Dasha Burns

Posted on 07/14/2024 6:26:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob

How does a gunman, in plain view of some spectators, manage to open fire on a former president at a campaign rally protected by federal and local law enforcement?

That is the frightening and unanswered question facing the country — and security officials — after Donald Trump said he suffered a graze wound on his right ear while he was speaking in a field in Butler, Pennsylvania, and left the stage with a bloodied head.

Secret Service personnel shot and killed the gunman, identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, immediately after he opened fire, the FBI said. A spectator was killed and two additional spectators were injured, but it was not immediately clear who shot them.

The assassination attempt, in which Crooks fired multiple shots at the stage from a roof outside the venue’s security perimeter, appeared to be the result of a grave lapse, perhaps the biggest since President Ronald Reagan was shot and wounded outside a Washington hotel in 1981. 

Security experts said it was difficult, and perhaps impossible, to eliminate every threat, particularly with long-range weapons and outdoor events.

But some said routine precautions should have prevented the shooter from getting onto the nearby roof.

>Steve Nottingham, a former SWAT commander in Long Beach, California, called Saturday’s shooting “a fundamental security failure.” 

He has worked security details for visiting world leaders, including presidents, and now trains officers on how to respond to critical incidents. He pointed at likely breakdowns in the pre-event scouting and real-time monitoring of places a gunman could shoot from. 

“They were behind the curve, because they should have had those places covered ahead of time,” Nottingham said.

Jim Cavanaugh, a retired special agent in charge with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who has been on Secret Service details, said he was surprised that the shooter was able to occupy an elevated position within rifle range of the rally site.

“Whenever I’ve been with them, every single high ground is taken by them or the local SWAT police,” Cavanaugh said. “There’s nobody allowed walking on rooftops. They command the high ground.”

He said a high-powered rifle like an AR-15 can hit targets 200 yards away. Trump was about 148 yards from the rooftop where the shooter was found dead, NBC News found, based on an analysis of Google Earth images. 

Cavanaugh added: “Having been on Secret Service details, it’s amazing to me that somebody was on an elevated position that they didn’t know about.”

Pennsylvania State Police Lt. Col. George Bivens defended the Secret Service at a news conference after the shooting.

“It is incredibly difficult to have a venue open to the public and to secure that against any possible threat against a very determined attacker,” Bivens said. “That’s a huge lift.”

“The investigation will really give us an opportunity to take a look at where any failures occurred and what can be done better in the future,” he added.

The Secret Service did not immediately respond to a request for comment. 

The FBI is leading the investigation, including its crisis response team members and evidence response technicians, it said in a statement Saturday evening.

Last month, as the presidential campaign heated up, the Secret Service said it was increasing the size of the detail assigned to Trump. The protection was bulked up “to ensure the highest level of security for not only the event sites but the travel in between events,” Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said at the time.

Perhaps the first sign that something was going wrong as Trump spoke Saturday came when spectators said they noticed a man with rifle bear-crawling on a nearby roof. One recalled trying to get the attention of law enforcement.

“The police are down there running around on the ground. We’re like, ‘Hey man, there’s a guy on the roof with a rifle,’” the witness told BBC News.  “And the police were like, ‘Huh, what?’ Like they didn’t know what was going on. We’re like, ‘Right here on the roof. We can see him from right here. We see him. He’s crawling.’”

A couple of minutes later, the man opened fire, the witness said.

Kevin Rojek, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh Field Office, said at a news conference that law enforcement was not aware of the man’s presence on the rooftop until he started firing.

“It is surprising,” Rojek conceded when pressed by a reporter on the number of shots the gunman managed to fire. 

He referred questions about advance security precautions to the Secret Service.

In the front row of the rally, attendees heard a series of pops and saw Secret Service agents jump on the stage. One, who identified herself as Erin, told NBC News that she saw blood on Trump’s ear. She did not fear for her own safety, she said. “We were only concerned about him,” she said, referring to Trump.

Trump said in a post on Truth Social a couple of hours later that a bullet “pierced the upper part of my right ear.”

“I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,” Trump wrote. “Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening.”

Former Secret Service agent Evy Poumpouras said it is impossible to eliminate every potential threat in a situation like Saturday’s. 

Outdoor rallies pose enormous security challenges given the availability of high-powered weapons, Poumpouras said.

“Somebody can be out in the distance and really engage your target from a long range, and there are weapons out there that allow you to do this,” said Poumpouras, who protected multiple presidents, including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, during her 12 years with the Secret Service.

“Let’s say you hunkered this whole area down. You’ve got the magnetometers; you’ve got the tactical element. Everything is locked and tight. How do you secure that outer perimeter? How far do you go? And can you cover everything? That’s a problem.”

She added: “Even if somebody is in an elevated position or not, how do you secure all of those elevated positions when you have weapons with the capabilities that are able to shoot long distances? This is what you are up against.”

Jillian Snider, a retired New York City police officer who was often detailed to political events, said it is routine for law enforcement to do a perimeter check extending a few hundred yards ahead of such an event.

“That doesn’t mean that someone can’t sneakily make their way to one of those positions afterward, especially if it was someone who had done some preplanning,” said Snider, an adjunct lecturer at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. “There are a lot of places in that area to hide, and you can’t monitor every possible position.”

“Someone who is that driven to do something like this will find a way to try and get the job done,” she added.


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To: DoodleBob
He said a high-powered rifle like an AR-15 can hit targets 200 yards away.

Wait ‘til the Camp Perry boys hear about this!

41 posted on 07/14/2024 6:48:28 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

Exactly...why was there no SS on roofs all around?


42 posted on 07/14/2024 6:48:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Climate cultists think we should go back to the goo"d times when people starved)
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To: Magnum44
The rooftop was covered from the SS sniper position. The relevant question is how much time was the sniper aware of the assassin on the roof top, and what were his rules of engagement? The answer to these will help determine if this was incompetence or designed failure.

The raid on Mar-a-Lago had more aggressive rules of engagement.

43 posted on 07/14/2024 6:49:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: RummyChick

the other thing I am seeing on twitter from people who have been in sniper settings is that the reason that the sniper lifted his head may be something was not computing through the scope and he was trying to process/confirm.


44 posted on 07/14/2024 6:49:41 AM PDT by RummyChick ( )
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To: cdcdawg

This is a modified limited hangout.


45 posted on 07/14/2024 6:51:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

And we know that was directed from the White House


46 posted on 07/14/2024 6:51:08 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: DoodleBob

The FBI is leading the investigation...


The FBI should NOT be the investigating body. We already know the FBI has been involved in setting up President Trump and have lied (Hunter’s laptop and Russia Hoax) to interfere in our election.

Why would we expect an honest investigation?


47 posted on 07/14/2024 6:53:20 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Put local law enforcement on the roof and deny the shooter the high ground. Duh.


48 posted on 07/14/2024 6:54:32 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: DoodleBob

At the manufacturing facility, who’s roof was used by the shooter...

Did anyone at the facility see the shooter climb to the roof?
Was it reported to anyone?
Did anyone at the facility enable the shooter?
...there is no reporting that the shooter was employed there
Did he simply park in the facility lot, walk between the buildings and climb to the roof?
...most commercial buildings with external fixed ladders to roof access have mechanisms in place to prevent access without removing a padlock.If this is the case, who unlocked the padlock?
Was the roof access from inside the building?

...72 hours...we’ll wait


49 posted on 07/14/2024 6:55:58 AM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: goodnesswins

Or even local LE. Don’t have to be a scout sniper to deny the high ground to the bad guys.


50 posted on 07/14/2024 6:56:48 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: All
Wonder if this has anything to do with the Chevron Law that was reversed by the SC?
51 posted on 07/14/2024 6:57:09 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Ec 1:2 The rest is, Vanity of vanities..vanity of vanities!All is vanity.)
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To: DoodleBob

Screw you NBC. Yesterday you were giving those who would harm Trump a voice and now all of a sudden you care. You only care because you realized that this event significantly improves Trumps chances for re-election. And that scares the s*** out of you.

CC


52 posted on 07/14/2024 6:57:13 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: DoodleBob

The lying continues. This oozes of massive failure and coverup. This was a setup.


53 posted on 07/14/2024 6:58:12 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: DoodleBob

How did the shooter know which rooftop to go to?


54 posted on 07/14/2024 6:58:18 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I guess another question to ask is will we learn in the near future that the would be assassin was ‘on the FBIs radar’?


55 posted on 07/14/2024 6:58:56 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: bert

Trump had turned his head towards the sound of the rifle fire.

Had he not done that it would have been a temple shot.


56 posted on 07/14/2024 6:59:16 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Mark17

I wonder if it was a deliberate failure?


Have you ever fired a rifle? It would be difficult enough to hit a moving target as small as a head let alone a EAR!

The shooter was aiming for Trump’s head and it missed only because Trump moved his head a split second before.


57 posted on 07/14/2024 6:59:21 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: GreenHornet

It is my belief that the shooter started shooting into the crowd after he could no longer see Trump, probably hoping to take out maga supporters too.


58 posted on 07/14/2024 7:01:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: BobL

Fox News this morning is doing a GREAT job of covering the Xi-den administration’s failure to keep Trump safe and success in making him their favorite target for elimination!
They had Bongino on a short while ago, and he EVISCERATED the MSM for their failure to expose the Left’s bias against Trump, and the danger that bias puts Trump, and our country, in.


59 posted on 07/14/2024 7:01:27 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement! There)
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To: DoodleBob

“Pennsylvania State Police Lt. Col. George Bivens defended the Secret Service “

Of course he did.
What else would he do, tell the truth?


60 posted on 07/14/2024 7:02:23 AM PDT by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
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