Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Illegals are indeed getting immediate Social Security, contrary to Democrat claims
American Thinker ^ | 07/09/2024 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 07/09/2024 7:15:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Who needs U.S. citizenship, or for that matter, legal authorization to live in the U.S. when you've got Joe Biden's open borders?

That looks like the story with illegals receiving Social Security benefits, a lifetime benefit that until recently had been perceived as nominally reserved for U.S. citizens, not illegal border crossers, and which Democrats are now trying to debunk.

At the debate, NewsNation reported that Trump said:

“Social Security … he’s destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they’re putting them onto Social Security,” Trump said. “They’re putting ‘em onto Medicare and Medicaid. Putting them into hospitals. They’re taking the place of our citizens.”

... and ...

“These millions and millions of people coming in, they’re trying to put them on Social Security. He will wipe out Social Security. He will wipe out Medicare.”

Which sounds true and is. Based on what's known from the Social Security office, via Newsweek's fact-check:

On its website, the Social Security Administration wrote: "Lawfully present noncitizens of the United States who meet all eligibility requirements can qualify for Social Security benefits. This rule also applies to noncitizens authorized to work in the United States who got a Social Security number after December 2003."

The problem, of course, is in the details. Illegals can't just tap into regular Social Security retirement benefits as paying Americans do.

However, they can get SSI pretty easily for lifetime benefits based on being unemployable, having no English skills, having no marketable skills, having no education, and not being retired.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bidenadm; crime; democrats; foreigners; illegals; illegalsinvasion; socialsecurity; ssi; theft; unemployable; welfare
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

1 posted on 07/09/2024 7:15:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

America Last

Americans Last


2 posted on 07/09/2024 7:18:57 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Quote from Excerpted section above: “Illegals can not just tap into regular Social Security retirement benefits as paying Americans do.”


3 posted on 07/09/2024 7:19:05 AM PDT by babble-on
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: babble-on
Immigrants living in the country illegally are not eligible for Social Security retirement benefits, but those who entered the U.S. illegally before receiving temporary permission to stay may be eligible for Supplemental Security Income benefits if they meet certain criteria. SSI benefits are distributed to people who have little or no income or resources, a disability, blindness, or attained the age of 65 or older.

The money-quote comes when the definition of legally present is described:

Immigrants may be eligible for SSI if they meet the following criteria:

Conditional entry, as well as parole status are what they give to catch-and-release foreign nationals who are "processed" by the Border Patrol after breaking and entering the U.S. illegally. The only foreigners who don't get this status are "gotaways" who escape Border Patrol detection, and are typically criminals and terrorists.

Biden's catch-and-release game is all about getting let out on the "honor system" that they'll show up to their asylum and deportation hearings, and then instantly qualifying for lifetime income benefits from SSI on the spot.

4 posted on 07/09/2024 7:21:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

What would it take to change that? Would an executive order do or is an act of congress necessary?


5 posted on 07/09/2024 7:22:03 AM PDT by Thorium90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

After the debate, people started saying “Biden seems a little senile”.
But the Democrats immediately jumped up and said, “Yeah? Well, Trump lied about everything all night long! Lies! Lies! Lies! Trump is such a liar!”

But anyone who looks at the Democrats with a clear eye knows that they lie constantly.


6 posted on 07/09/2024 7:25:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“Social Security benefits, a lifetime benefit that until recently had been perceived as nominally reserved for U.S. citizens”

Not quite accurate. I have some Irish relatives who worked in the US in the 60s legitimately (had SSNs), never were citizens, moved back to Ireland and received monthly social security payments (obviously much less than the maximum) after they reached retirement age.

Eligibility is determined by contributions.


7 posted on 07/09/2024 7:25:51 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JSM_Liberty
Eligibility is determined by contributions.

Over a period of "quarters" to qualify.

8 posted on 07/09/2024 7:27:58 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

What the heck, I only paid into since I was 16, why not give my money to a bunch of illegals?


9 posted on 07/09/2024 7:31:11 AM PDT by kawhill (kawhill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Illegals are indeed getting immediate Social Security, contrary to Democrat claims

I thought Social Security was paid based on your salary and what your taxable income was over the years. How do these foreign invaders get any money when their's would be zero?

10 posted on 07/09/2024 7:34:20 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Is that Joe's diaper, or the STENCH of his TREASON?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1Old Pro
> Eligibility is determined by contributions.

No. Eligibility is solely determined by Congress, since SSN has been an entitlement program since its inception.

Per Flemming vs Nestor :

"The Court rejected that Social Security is a system of 'accrued property rights' and that those who pay into the system have no contractual right to receive what they have paid into"

The Government has been lying to you since FDR passed SSN into law.

11 posted on 07/09/2024 7:34:37 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: The Sons of Liberty

RE: I thought Social Security was paid based on your salary and what your taxable income was over the years.

See Post #4 above.


12 posted on 07/09/2024 7:35:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

How many dollars are going to members of that list who you think should not be getting any of those benefits? Obviously being a Putin lover you want to eliminate the Ukrainians (altogether) but who else?


13 posted on 07/09/2024 7:35:55 AM PDT by babble-on
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Paroled into the United States.
Admitted as a refugee.
Granted asylum.
The number denied under these terms are negligible.
I did hear Biden is not deporting greater numbers than Trump now. Riiiight.


14 posted on 07/09/2024 7:36:37 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

SSI (supplemental security income) sounds like SS but it isn’t it’s for people who’ve never worked enough quarters for SS or SSDI.

The money comes from the general fund and is administered by SS. It is nothing but straight-up welfare.


15 posted on 07/09/2024 7:38:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
No wonder SS is going broke!

And Traitor Joe "Beat Medicare" to boot!

16 posted on 07/09/2024 7:39:13 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Is that Joe's diaper, or the STENCH of his TREASON?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“However, they can get SSI pretty easily for lifetime benefits based on being unemployable, having no English skills, having no marketable skills, having no education, and not being retired.”

Would that include many of our current crop of youth? Asking for a friend.


17 posted on 07/09/2024 7:41:35 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
"Illegals are indeed getting immediate Social Security, contrary to Democrat claims."

The demonrats lie.??? Who knew....! (spit)

18 posted on 07/09/2024 7:54:35 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

*


19 posted on 07/09/2024 7:56:02 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
MAFA - Make Americans First Again
20 posted on 07/09/2024 7:56:42 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson