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Posted on 07/02/2024 8:33:44 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
John Dean, former White House counsel for the Nixon administration, said he believes former President Nixon “would have survived” the Watergate scandal if the Supreme Court’s immunity ruling issued Monday, which largely shields former presidents from criminal prosecution for actions in office, existed at the time.
Asked what would’ve happened with Nixon if the immunity ruling was in place during the fallout from Watergate, Dean pointed to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who split from the other conservative justices on a portion of the majority opinion regarding the use of president’s official acts as evidence in criminal prosecution against a former president.
“Well, there’s actually two rulings in this decision. There’s a 6-3 for presumptive immunity, but there’s also a 5-4 on you can’t even have the evidence of official conduct come to play,” Dean said Monday. “This is very…this to me, appears to certainly influence the existing law on presidential conduct [and] what’s available…evidentiary speaking. Amy Coney Barrett said she didn’t think that it should be so restricted as the decision of the court itself was, so I think that Nixon would have survived. I think he would have walked under this ruling.”
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How? Congress would not have moved forward with impeaching him for these acts with this ruling?
Makes *zero* sense.
no, he would have been impeached an convicted, the trial could have been put off from August to January 1975
This!
“Not correct” is correct. Can’t these people read? Dumb as a sack of hammers.
WIKI
The Huston Plan was a 43-page report and outline of proposed security operations put together by White House aide Tom Charles Huston in 1970. It came to light during the 1973 Watergate hearings headed by Senator Sam Ervin (D-NC). According to U.S. Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD), U.S. President Richard Nixon rescinded the plan on July 28, 1970, after approving it on July 23.
The impetus for this report was President Richard Nixon’s desire for coordination of domestic intelligence on purported ‘left-wing radicals’ and the counterculture-era anti-war movement in general. Huston had been assigned as White House liaison to the Interagency Committee on Intelligence (ICI), a group chaired by J. Edgar Hoover, then Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director. Huston worked closely with William C. Sullivan, Hoover’s assistant, in drawing up the options listed in what eventually became the document known as the Huston Plan.
The plan called for domestic burglary, illegal electronic surveillance, and opening the mail of domestic “radicals”. At one time, it also called for camps in Western states where anti-war protesters would be detained.
On July 23, 1970, Nixon ratified the proposals, and they were submitted as a document to the directors of the FBI, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and the National Security Agency (NSA).
Only Hoover objected to the plan and gained the support of then Attorney General of the United States John Mitchell to pressure Nixon to rescind the plan.
As details of the Huston Plan unfolded during the Watergate Hearings, it came to be seen as part of what Attorney General Mitchell referred to as “White House horrors”. This included the Plumbers Unit, the proposed fire-bombing of the Brookings Institution, the 1971 burglary of the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the creation of a White House enemies list, and the use of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to punish those deemed to be enemies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Plan
How we got to Watergate:
https://the-avocado.org/2019/06/08/how-we-got-here-the-education-of-tom-charles-huston/
You are the one who belongs in jail over Watergate!
It was entirely your self-serving operation.
John is a particularly loathsome individual who has done exceedingly well for himself by selling out to the establishment and deep state. The deep state really does take good care of its allies. Just look at all of Dean’s brothers and sisters who “cooperated” over the years, and the pattern is clear.
Agreed. Also nothing the court said yesterday would prevent an impeachment. Congress still gets to decide for themselves what constitutes a ‘High crime or misdemeanor’.
He did not authorize it.
I wasn’t aware that Nixon didn’t ‘walk’.
Sure. LBJ, FDR, and BHO all got away with surveilling their opponents because they did it through official channels. If Nixon had done that, there would have been no Watergate hearings and no impeachment proceedings and no resignation. Spying on rivals through unofficial channels would be more iffy, but at this point, we realize that the legal system is rigged anyway.
“ Contrary to popular belief, Nixon was most likely the target of a deep state coup.”
Oh, you don’t think it was just a coincidence that the Deputy Director of the FBI was the secret source (and the author) of what the “gallant crusading reporters” published?
Anyone who understands Crossfire Hurricane but thinks Watergate was the result of legitimate law enforcement is too stupid to be allowed out of the house.
A person should not be imprisoned for:
1. paying his lawyer,
2. what he writes in his own checkbook, or
3. what others write in his checkbook when the person is rich and has other people pay his bills.
Technically, I don’t think Nixon authorized it, but only tried to cover it up once done.
The only similarities with Nixon:
1) Republican
2) Detested by Media
Or Jimmie Dean’s. James Dean, or even Dean Martin.
What a maroon!
It shields OFFICIAL actions! Since when could bugging the headquarters of your political opponents EVER be considered “official”?
O.K. I’m getting sleepy ... I first read ...
“Jean Dixon said....” lol
So Dean is admitting what Nixon said is totally true. When the President does it, it is not illegal.
I AM NOT A LAWYER-—BUT-—
THERE is a difference between:
“Actions in OFFICE” AND “OFFICIAL ACTIONS”
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