Bad debate nights happen.

X/Twitter.com ^ | 1:36 PM · Jun 28, 2024 · 97.5M Views | Barack Obama @BarackObama

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Trust me, I know. But this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself. Between someone who tells the truth; who knows right from wrong and will give it to the American people straight — and someone who lies through his teeth for his own benefit. Last night didn’t change that, and it’s why so much is at stake in November. http://joebiden.com

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Hussein has the vapors as sees his fourth term slipping through his fingers.

[asinclair]

Methinks pot calling the kettle black.

[LittleBillyInfidel]

Hey, look! It’s “Mr Cool Guy” with the phoney self-deprication act!

[Jeff Chandler]

More gaslighting.

[cgbg]

Obozo—Classic putting lipstick on a pig.

[NWFree]

Trump donated his salary so it’s not difficult to see who is who

[hanamizu]

“Trust me, I know. But this election is still a choice between someone who has fed at the public trough his entire life and someone who cares enough about America as to sacrifice millions of dollars of his own money...”

[lightman]

Projecting with a gas light.

[rockabyebaby]

WOW! So HUSSEIN is telling “folks” to vote for Trump! Suhweeeeeeeeeet!

[Peter ODonnell]

Well, Biden is as honest as Obama, and cares as much about the average American.

Not a very high bar however.

This is the same b.s. that I heard on a recent news broadcast with an anal-yst looking at the debate ... her take was “sure Biden lost the debate but he is still a really nice guy with high ethical standards.”

I mean if you can really believe that, you should not be an expert on TV, you should be a mental patient in a mental hospital. And Obama and Biden should be your cellmates.

Obvious point, if Donald Trump was all about himself, he would never have gone into politics, he had a great thing going on, and had a lot to lose giving up salary and free time (and privacy) to aid the nation in its time of peril. It is the constant lying of the media that prevents this from being more widely understood.

[gibsonguy]

“Bad debate nights happen”

Not like this epic train wreck, they knew it was possible. That is why it took place in June.

[kiryandil]

[Reno89519]

Obama wants Democrats to support and vote for Biden despite their lying eyes that saw and see him as an incompetent old man unable to carry out the duties of president.

...because the alternative, Trump, is worse. /s

[Preachin']

Sometimes a candidate says something really stupid, doesn’t give a full answer, or perhaps doesn’t capitalize on the other person’s mistake.

But... That’s not what this is. It wasn’t a bad debate. It was a public display of how completely pathetic Joe Biden is.

They can try to spin this, but the public simply can’t unsee that debate, and true independents can’t pretend it didn’t happen.

[TexasFreeper2009]

it’s not about a debate its about dementia

[grobdriver]

a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself

Is that right, Barry? Fought for ordinary folks?

Let's ask a few "ordinary folks" how well Biden has "fought" for them.

Shall we ask Jocelyn Nungaray? Well crap - can't ask her.
Or, howabout we ask Rachel Morin how much Biden has done for her.
No? Maybe Patricia Portillo has an opinion.
Or Alexis Godoy?

The meat puppet who occupies the oval office has blood on his hands, along with his useless wife and most of his administration, AND YOU, TOO, you bastard.

[RckyRaCoCo]

...in a post-American world.

[Gaffer]

Hussein, we’re not gonna give your boy another bite at the debate apple. There’s no need for Trump to do anything now, much less agree to give grampa another shot at it.

[navymom1]

So I’m wondering what is going on behind the scenes. What is the real plan?

[Political Junkie Too]

A snap poll was taken of independent voters immediately after Thursday night's debate.

Here is a link to the poll's raw data:

J.L. Partners Post-Debate Poll of Independent Voters

Here are some interesting nuggets in this poll:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

• Of people who voted for Trump in 2020:
  • 73% were still going to vote for Trump in 2024.
  • 6% were switching to Biden.
  • 11% were switching to RFK, Jr.
  • 3% were switching to Cornell West.
  • 0% were switching to Jill Stein.
  • 1% were switching to Chase Oliver.

• Of people who voted for Biden in 2020:
  • 54% were still going to vote for Biden in 2024.
  • 12% were switching to Trump.
  • 17% were switching to RFK, Jr.
  • 4% were switching to Cornell West.
  • 2% were switching to Jill Stein.
  • 1% were switching to Chase Oliver.

Analysis: President Trump was going to lose 21% of his 2020 Independent voters. Biden was going to lose 36% of his 2020 Independent voters.

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Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

• Of people who voted for Trump in 2020:
  • 78% are still going to vote for Trump in 2024. (+5)
  • 5% are switching to Biden. (-1)
  • 9% are switching to RFK, Jr. (-2)
  • 2% are switching to Cornell West. (-1)
  • 0% are switching to Jill Stein. (0)
  • 0% were switching to Chase Oliver. (-1)

• Of people who voted for Biden in 2020:
  • 46% are still going to vote for Biden in 2024. (-8)
  • 14% are switching to Trump. (+2)
  • 17% are switching to RFK, Jr. (0)
  • 2% are switching to Cornell West. (-2)
  • 2% are switching to Jill Stein. (0)
  • 0% were switching to Chase Oliver. (-1)

Analysis: President Trump regained 5% of his 2020 Independent voters AND picked up 2% of 2020 Biden voters. Biden lost an additional 8% of his 2020 Independent voters.

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About the African-American Independent vote:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

• 24% were going to vote for Trump.
• 32% were going to vote for Biden.
• 18% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
• 3% were going to vote for Cornell West.
• 1% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
• 3% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

• 35% are going to vote for Trump. (+11)
• 28% are going to vote for Biden. (-4)
• 13% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (-5)
• 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
• 2% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (+1)
• 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (-2)

Analysis: President Trump picked up 11% of the Independent black vote. Biden lost 4% of the Independent black vote.

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About Independent Women voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

• 36% were going to vote for Trump.
• 31% were going to vote for Biden.
• 16% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
• 2% were going to vote for Cornell West.
• 1% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
• 1% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

• 38% are going to vote for Trump. (+2)
• 26% are going to vote for Biden. (-2)
• 15% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (+2)
• 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (-1)
• 2% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (0)
• 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (-1)

Analysis: President Trump picked up 2% of the Independent female vote. Biden lost 2% of the Independent female vote.

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About Independent Young (18-29) voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

• 37% were going to vote for Trump.
• 28% were going to vote for Biden.
• 15% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
• 3% were going to vote for Cornell West.
• 3% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
• 2% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

• 41% are going to vote for Trump. (+3)
• 23% are going to vote for Biden. (-3)
• 14% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (-1)
• 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
• 3% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (+1)
• 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (0)

Analysis: President Trump picked up 3% of the Independent young vote. Biden lost 3% of the Independent young vote.

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About Independent Senior (65+) voters:

Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?

• 32% were going to vote for Trump.
• 43% were going to vote for Biden.
• 3% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
• 0% were going to vote for Cornell West.
• 0% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
• 0% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.

Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?

• 31% are going to vote for Trump. (-1)
• 41% are going to vote for Biden. (-2)
• 9% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (+6)
• 0% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
• 0% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (0)
• 0% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (0)

Analysis: Seniors are the only Independent voting bloc where Trump is not doing well, losing 2% after the debate to Biden losing only 1%. Seniors moved to RFK, Jr. by 6% after the debate.

An interesting side note is that seniors are not interested in alternative parties.

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Conclusion: President Trump picked up votes in all major demographics except the senior voters.

-PJ