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Imposing a Permanent Gag Order on Trump
Front Page Magazine ^ | June 22, 2024 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 06/22/2024 1:32:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Gag orders, constitutionally dubious, are meant to protect the integrity of a judicial proceeding.

However, even with the trial over, the gag orders imposed on former President Trump are not going away.

DA Bragg’s office (which had just freed the antisemitic Columbia Hamas rioters) demanded a continuation of the gag order which prohibits him from commenting on the individuals involved in the trial.

Since Trump is also running for president and Biden is spending $50 million to attack him over the various Democrat trials imposed on him, this effectively bans a presidential candidate from debating a campaign issue.

The New York Court of Appeals claimed that “no substantial constitutional question is directly involved” in gagging a presidential candidate when in reality several are involved.

But weasel words like “substantial” and “directly” give away the game.

Imposing a gag order post-trial on a potentially indefinite basis has no legal validity. There is no longer a judicial proceeding to protect. The basis for Bragg’s demands is the DA’s claim that he’s still getting death threats and that Trump may seek revenge. There will be plenty of people who hate Bragg regardless of what Trump says and the rationale that the rhetoric poses a personal risk rather than a risk to a case allows for a permanent gag order.

It also shifts away from protecting judicial proceedings before and during to protecting them afterward, and from restricting speech by a participant in a legal proceeding to restricting speech that political agitators believe threatens them.

How long until the same doctrine is being used to muzzle not just Trump but everyone?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: danielgreenfield; gagorder; greenfield; hushmoneytrial; merchan; sultanknish; trump; trumpgagorder
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How long until the same doctrine is being used to muzzle not just Trump but everyone? Also idiot prosecutor in his trial.


21 posted on 06/22/2024 2:24:29 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: CatOwner

They would not defy the Supreme Court,at least not for that.


22 posted on 06/22/2024 2:33:27 PM PDT by philippa
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To: CatOwner

If the DOJ were to defy the Supreme Court after the nakedly political persecution of Donald Trump in four separate courts along the East Coast, and after Meritless Garbage decided to ignore a Congressional subpoena in just the way that Bannon did, and do this all a few months before the election, it would be absolutely devastating for the Democrats. As it is, they are sliding in the polls, this would be like Mrs. O’Leary‘s cow kicking over a lantern in the barn.


23 posted on 06/22/2024 2:45:28 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
getting death threats

\/
. i keep hearing this from ilk like fauci ...

its b.s.

im sick of it.

if ‘they’ are getting death threats ,

why hasnt any one been charged and put on trial ?

are we supposed to believe they can find a pic taking memaw who walked in a no go zone outside the capital by geo locating her phone

but cant trace these ‘ death threats’ ?

cant find who sent an email ?

or letter ?

until i see someone on trial for making death threats

i call b.s. on the claims.

24 posted on 06/22/2024 3:01:21 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So here’s my prediction: no matter what he says during a debate, he will be accused of violating a gag order afterwards.

So he might as well say whatever he needs to say gag orders and local DA’s be damned.


25 posted on 06/22/2024 3:09:53 PM PDT by jimjohn (We're at war, people. Start acting like it.)
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To: CatOwner

I think you’re right. I was thinking he wouldn’t send him to jail as there would be issues with the secret service, but that is true: House arrest would give him the opportunity to telecast, use the net. These domestic enemies - which is what I call them now - want him completely destroyed, dead, neutralized, a complete non-threat to their goal of absolute power.

It’s amazing to me, every day how unaware people are that the life they enjoy, their freedom, can all be gone forever by November 6th. I was asking some leftists the other day - are they aware that if people in this country lose their freedom and the US becomes a one party tyranny, that they are going to be public enemy #1?? Do they REALLY want to have half the country hunting them down like dogs? And of course I got the usual response, “Get mental help” “Trumpsters are brain damaged”

Yeah, OK. We got people today who kill people if their McDonalds order is messed up. How do they think people are going to react when they are suddenly living under 3rd world conditions competing with illegal aliens for food? Jobs? Housing? Leftists are absolute toast if that happens. All these morons driving around with Biden bumper stickers will be fish food.


26 posted on 06/22/2024 3:24:00 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

And at least he didn’t shower with his daughter.


27 posted on 06/22/2024 3:31:36 PM PDT by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Bus all the illegals to NYC.


28 posted on 06/22/2024 3:32:44 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Ancesthntr
Meritless Garbage

Without comment [LOL! That is a keeper.]

29 posted on 06/22/2024 3:57:19 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Ancesthntr

Right now one of the Democrats’ talking points is that Trump doesn’t respect the judicial system (because of his attacks on the absurd outcome of the Manhattan trial). They are probably hoping that the Supreme Court fails to take any action before the November election, so they don’t have to defy any ruling that benefits Trump. The Court is gun-shy after all the attacks they received after they stopped the recounts in December 2000, which allowed Bush to become President, so they wouldn’t want to be seen as doing something that might benefit Trump.


30 posted on 06/22/2024 4:27:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: cockroach_magoo

“”“I’d like to respond to that, but I don’t think I can because of the gag order.”””

I like that...it’s the truth - what can it hurt? It should take place only once for the moderators to get the point and switch to other topics...


31 posted on 06/22/2024 4:31:51 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

“”switch to other topics...”” I meant to say - switch their strategy...


32 posted on 06/22/2024 4:34:31 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: cockroach_magoo
During the debate, Trump should respond to any question he doesn’t like with, “I’d like to respond to that, but I don’t think I can because of the gag order.”

No.

During the debate Trump should violate the gag order and speak his mind to the American people.

Then he should declare that federal election law overrules a local "acting" county judge's gag order after the verdict has been given, and he will now consider himself free to speak when campaigning to be elected President.

-PJ

33 posted on 06/22/2024 4:36:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What happens if Trump ignores the order and dares Bragg to do something about it?

I for one am tired of these tyrant want-to-bes.

Tine to take the fight to them.

34 posted on 06/22/2024 5:50:43 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("If they can do that to Trump then they can do that to YOU." -- Lazamataz)
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To: butterdezillion

They can’t if nobody asks them


35 posted on 06/22/2024 6:07:58 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A few seconds of the liars on CNN showed them agreeing that Trump “endangers” the court staff, judge, prosecutor staff and others-—by his words. And claims the words will bring our Deplorables to do violence.

This is evil of the media (not surprising, though).


36 posted on 06/22/2024 6:11:02 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It’s amazing to me, every day how unaware people are that the life they enjoy, their freedom, can all be gone forever by November 6th.

That is well said. THEY give the total BS their beloved Communist "democracy" will be gone under Trump.

37 posted on 06/22/2024 6:15:55 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: cableguymn

I would hope Trump’s legal team would ask them.


38 posted on 06/22/2024 7:55:07 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Eleutheria5
However, even with the trial over, the gag orders imposed on former President Trump are not going away.

Is sentencing a part of the trial?

39 posted on 06/22/2024 9:33:34 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: All

They’ll do it and once it makes it’s way to the court system, in three years, it’ll be declared unconstitutional.


40 posted on 06/23/2024 3:03:25 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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