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Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv calls it 'absurd'
AP via Yahoo ^ | June 14th, 2024 | DASHA LITVINOVA

Posted on 06/14/2024 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mariner

Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to “immediately” order a cease-fire in Ukraine and begin negotiations if Kyiv started withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukraine responded by calling Putin’s proposal “manipulative” and “absurd.”

Putin’s remarks came as Switzerland prepared to host scores of world leaders -- but not from Moscow -- this weekend to try to map out first steps toward peace in Ukraine.

They also coincided with a meeting of leaders of the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations in Italy and after the U.S. and Ukraine this week also signed a 10-year security agreement that Russian officials, including Putin, denounced as “null and void.”

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TOPICS: European Union; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: annexation; dashalitvinova; landforpeace; landlandlandforpeace; putin; russia; theputin; therussia; theukraine; ukraine
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To: Justa
"And since most of you trolls work for him, well, it’s your fault then isn’t it? And we know how Putin deals with people who fail him."

Cut the crap with the labeling nonsense. You and your ilk mention Putin and Russia more in your comments than any of us who are against sending unaccounted-for billions of taxpayer dollars to fight yet another unending proxy war, while politicians on both sides of the aisle in this country, their family, friends and big donors get richer.

21 posted on 06/14/2024 2:44:25 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: JSM_Liberty

“There is plenty of coverage”

Find it on CNN’s home page, please.

https://www.cnn.com/

or ABC

https://abcnews.go.com/


22 posted on 06/14/2024 2:45:45 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Midwesterner53

The simple ALWAYS resort to the Hitler analogy.


23 posted on 06/14/2024 2:46:02 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Midwesterner53
""History alrways repeats itself."

Like the morons who have repeatedly been supporting costly, and destructive proxy wars for the past 70+ years.

24 posted on 06/14/2024 2:46:27 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: JSM_Liberty

“We’ll stop the war if you surrender.”

It’s the only deal they’re going to get.


25 posted on 06/14/2024 2:46:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Justa

Prostitutes at least get paid to whore themselves out, but the globohomo ukraine-flag-waiving cuckolds do it for free LOL


26 posted on 06/14/2024 2:47:53 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: Justa
And since most of you trolls work for him, well, it’s your fault then isn’t it? And we know how Putin deals with people who fail him.

What a vicious little false accusation. It kind of makes me wonder who you’re working for.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygh5f-B99A

27 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:07 PM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: Mariner

Why should Ukraine be in NATO? They are already getting the benefits from NATO nations( except for ground troops) and they didn’t have to pay a dime for membership.


28 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:15 PM PDT by kaila
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To: Sequoyah101

The left and its supporters will do just about anything to remain in power including keeping a mentally challenged unethical leader in power as well as railroading a former president. And if it looks like all these attempts may fail they are not beyond starting a major war as things are unlikely to change during a war, regarding elections of any sorts, and this is what all this may lead to. So far it looks like ignorant leader with few exceptions around the globe are pushing full speed ahead in that direction. I hope I am dead wrong


29 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:53 PM PDT by Saintgermain ( )
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To: Midwesterner53
NATO has replaced Jesus Christ/Primary Cause for people who favor another European tyrannical art fag.


30 posted on 06/14/2024 2:52:37 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: packagingguy

I believe Kissinger backed this ending.


31 posted on 06/14/2024 2:53:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mariner; All
Typical negotiating posturing.

The initial offer is always more than what will be settled for.

32 posted on 06/14/2024 2:54:29 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: All

Factoids that matter:

2022 (2023 numbers out in about 2 weeks)

Russian oil consumption 3.57 million barrels/day +2.5% year

Ukraine oil consumption 0.2 million barrels/day
(Ukraine consumption in decline was underway pre war —
0.287 in 2012, 0.239 in 2019)

Russian gas consumption 408 billion cubic meters/yr, down from 2021

Ukraine gas consumption 19.3 billion cubic meters/yr, down from 2021

All of Europe down from 2021, warm weather. Even China and India gas consumption were down.


33 posted on 06/14/2024 2:55:14 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: Mariner

Once Brandon turns 91, his 10-year plan will be fulfilled, and peace will finally come to UKR. UKR also says elections right now are “absurd”, yet we’re ‘protecting’ their democracy - yes, absurd. So at least one side is putting an exit strategery on the table, regardless of absurdity.


34 posted on 06/14/2024 2:56:01 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: rfp1234
Those areas were always self governing. Whatever the boundaries were when the two areas held their referendums...should be the end game.

Zelensky is interested in one thing...ethnic cleansing....not a Russian to be found even though the majority have Russian relations.

35 posted on 06/14/2024 2:57:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tom Tetroxide

I hadn’t thought of it before now, but I do believe you’re right about this.


36 posted on 06/14/2024 2:57:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kaila
"Why should Ukraine be in NATO? They are already getting the benefits from NATO nations( except for ground troops) and they didn’t have to pay a dime for membership."

Germany has just now, this year, for the first time since the end of the Cold War, been able to allocate 2% of their gross domestic product on defense as required by NATO. If Ukraine can't afford to support their own government, or pay for their own wars, where the hell do these people think they're going to get the money to meet NATO's 2% defense requirement?

37 posted on 06/14/2024 2:59:34 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Mariner

Zeepers hardest hit by this.


38 posted on 06/14/2024 3:02:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Justa

You zippers don’t realize that if you get rid of Putin, you will get a more effective b)ody Russian leader.


39 posted on 06/14/2024 3:12:27 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Midwesterner53

I missed the part where Putin killed 6 Million Jews.


40 posted on 06/14/2024 3:13:34 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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