[mass55th]

"And since most of you trolls work for him, well, it’s your fault then isn’t it? And we know how Putin deals with people who fail him."

Cut the crap with the labeling nonsense. You and your ilk mention Putin and Russia more in your comments than any of us who are against sending unaccounted-for billions of taxpayer dollars to fight yet another unending proxy war, while politicians on both sides of the aisle in this country, their family, friends and big donors get richer.

[Owen]

Factoids that matter:

2022 (2023 numbers out in about 2 weeks)

Russian oil consumption 3.57 million barrels/day +2.5% year

Ukraine oil consumption 0.2 million barrels/day
(Ukraine consumption in decline was underway pre war —
0.287 in 2012, 0.239 in 2019)

Russian gas consumption 408 billion cubic meters/yr, down from 2021

Ukraine gas consumption 19.3 billion cubic meters/yr, down from 2021

All of Europe down from 2021, warm weather. Even China and India gas consumption were down.

[Mark was here]

“You and your ilk”, but don’t label me!

[freeandfreezing]

You can be opposed to funding for Ukraine without cheerleading for Putin.

Read the other comments and think about whether they aren't the 2024 version of what Jane Fonda was doing in 1972.

She was opposed to the US fighting in the war in Vietnam just like some posters here are opposed to the US supporting Ukraine in its war.