Putin pledges truce if Ukraine exits occupied areas and drops NATO bid, likely a nonstarter for Kyiv

CTV ^ | 6/14/24 | Dasha Litvinova

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Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to “immediately” order a ceasefire in Ukraine(opens in a new tab) and begin negotiations if Kyiv started withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Such a deal appears a nonstarter for Kyiv, which wants to join the military alliance and has demanded that Russia withdraw its troops from all of its territory. There was no immediate comment from Ukraine on Putin's proposal.

[hardspunned]

Again, Putin tries for a negotiated peace. The Russians have consistently tried this approach ever since the West started the unprovoked proxy war against them in 2014.

[JonPreston]

Stop this war.

[BobL]

Going to be tempting for the Neocons, as it will buy them time to re-arm (while Russia does the same), and may buy them enough time to even get Biden through the election, which is their primary goal and why they have so many Operatives here.

[Petrosius]

Yeah, negotiations: “Give me even more land.” Putin must have learned his “art of the deal” from Vito Corleone.

[canuck_conservative]

Russia lies all the time, and doesn’t even honor their given word.

Russia had a valid freely-signed treaty with Ukraine in Feb. 2022, promising to respect Ukraine’s borders ... yet Russia ignored it, and invaded anyway

How can anyone ever trust liars and backstabbers like these?

[Williams]

Yeah Putin is wonderful what a good guy.
Anyway, the offer is a step in the right direction.
Putin knows Trump is coming, and figures Trump will insist on something like this.

[Cronos]

Putin is trying for Ukraine to surrender not only the territory that the Kremlin grabbed, but more.

It would be like Hitler telling the Czechs to give up not only the Sudentenland but also main Bohemia

[Cronos]

stop the war - tell your fuhrer Putin to leave the lands he tried to conquer militarily

[Williams]

No one here wants Biden elected, except maybe some here who know Trump will be tougher on Putin.

[BobL]

“No one here wants Biden elected, except maybe some here who know Trump will be tougher on Putin.”

Plenty of NeverTrumpers here, and their histories often show it.

[Raycpa]

Blinked,,?

[McGruff]

RT @RT_com

⚡️ Russia is making another real peace proposal today — President Putin

Conditions for a peaceful resolution:

- A neutral, non-aligned, demilitarized, and denazified Ukraine

- Rights and freedoms of Russian-speaking citizens

- The new Russian territories must be recognized

6:42 AM · Jun 14, 2024

That will probably be the final solution just how many more will die before it comes to be.

[canuck_conservative]

Plenty of NeverTrumpers here

Give us names

Put up or shut up

[canuck_conservative]

Any peace deal that ignores Ukraine’s security needs won’t ever fly

Thus, expect more war ...

[Erik Latranyi]

Too bad NATO cannot be trusted, having violated multiple agreements.

[nathanbedford]

The West should grab this opportunity with both hands.

It is essential to get negotiations going even though the positions on each side are mutually unacceptable.

Ukraine is running out of soldiers, the West is running out of ammunition, the United States is running out of enthusiasm.

Russia is sacrificing soldiers at an incredible rate that might be unsustainable, Putin's economy is showing signs of cracking, rumors abound of Putin losing control over his supporting elite.

The United States is broke, we are out of ammunition, we don't have the forces in place to protect or even deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan, the Saudis are breaking away from the dollar as is some of the rest of the world. If America does not act to stop the disintegration, we will soon be unable to influence events.

It is imperative that Putin does not succeed in his inevitable efforts to divide his adversaries. It is imperative that Biden not be permitted to undermine Zelinski's negotiation efforts in Ukraine as he has done to Netanyahu. As difficult as the objective is, it is vital that the United States and Europe negotiate with one voice and that voice should embrace Zelinski's Ukraine.

The first response to Putin's offer of negotiations for settlement should be a demand for an armistice in place. This saves lives on both sides, especially Ukrainian lives and forces Russia to negotiate for land it does not occupy.

Once negotiations are started, all kinds of cards can be played but it is essential to stop the fighting as soon as possible.

[BobL]

They support the NUMBER ONE priority of Biden, to the point of risking nuclear war, so that’s enough for me.

[Justa]

“Stop this war.”

Don’t beg.

We’re all waiting for the Khadaffi-style end of Putin’s reign of destruction. You know, the one he’s afraid of because he knows his path and the fate he chose when he invaded UKR.

[canuck_conservative]

So in other words, you got no names

lol

[escapefromboston]

It’s probably the best offer the Ukraine is going to get