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Moscow warns West after Ukraine told it can hit Russia with Western weapons
BBC ^ | May 31, 2024 | Paul Kirby

Posted on 05/31/2024 6:40:12 AM PDT by McGruff

Russia has accused Nato and the US of "provoking a new level of tension" after the US and Germany became the latest allies to let Ukraine's military to use Western-supplied weapons to strike targets inside Russia.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Nato countries, especially the US and several European countries, had "entered a new round of escalating tension and they are doing this deliberately", in remarks quoted by the Tass news agency.

The UK and France had already signalled they were open to easing restrictions on Ukraine striking military sites on Russian territory, before US President Joe Biden said on Thursday night that American-supplied weapons could be used.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: escalation; killkillkillforpeace; mic; ukraine; welfarewar
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To: dfwgator

If targets inside of Russia start getting destroyed with weapons provided and probably operated by the USA, at least for a while the Russian public will unite to defend their country.


41 posted on 05/31/2024 7:18:52 AM PDT by srmanuel (Q)
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To: McGruff

Looks like team Biden realized pretty quick that the Trump Verdict is backfiring in a Big Way. They almost immediately decided that Ukraine can Use US Weapons to ATTACK RUSSIA. This is the beginning of WWIII and as many have said before, including me, this is their End Game to STOP TRUMP.


42 posted on 05/31/2024 7:21:39 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Jim Noble

Then there won’t be anybody left to blame, nor anyone left to do the blaming…


43 posted on 05/31/2024 7:22:11 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: eyeamok; SaveFerris

“The missiles are flying! Halellujah! Halellujah!”


44 posted on 05/31/2024 7:26:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

This reminds me of high school days. An Irish friend, known for fighting got into a scuffle with one from a neighboring town. They squared off. John stated: Don’t hit me in the nose; it’s already broken. Jeepers, what do you think happened? Well, Tom put John on the ground with a rebroken nose.
How on earth can one country give another weapons with restrictions?


45 posted on 05/31/2024 7:28:14 AM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: telescope115

How about a nuke with the radioactive signature of, say, Uranium One ore? It will certainly be claimed to be of Russian origin, will it not?


46 posted on 05/31/2024 7:30:52 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

Paging Hillary, paging Hillary……..


47 posted on 05/31/2024 7:32:39 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: McGruff

Russia has been playing war with it’s neighbor, and Ukraine has been playing in kind.

But just like a bar fight, if it goes on long enough it will escalate.


48 posted on 05/31/2024 7:32:54 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: McGruff
Ronald Reagan won the Cold War without firing a shot. Now the USA is in a proxy war with Russia.

It's really scary how millions of people believe what they're told to believe, yield to group pressure, jump onto the latest zeitgeist groupthink bandwagon.

I never understood how millions of Germans could believe the nazi propaganda and follow Hitler down the Road to Hell--until the 21st century.

Back in the 20th century, American education taught students to think for themselves. Today they are indoctrination centers.

Once American journalism was revered for its commitment to truth, for seeking truth, truth for its own sake. Today it's an integral part of a crass, mendacious propaganda machine, very much like Hitler's.

Once America's legal system and government institutions and agencies were pristine and revered. Today they are corrupt.

Once Americans would have recalled in horror and disgust at the depravities accepted as normal by Americans today, and in fact championed by the intelligentsia.

Back in the 1970's, my father's brother, a brilliant man, elderly then, told me that one day America might go the way of the Roman Republic. I believed him. I bought and read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. However I considered such an eventuality to be far in the distant future and could not imagine how it could happen considering America's enormous internal strength, prowess, and moral health. Today I understand perfectly.

49 posted on 05/31/2024 7:34:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If they can do it to him, they can do it to us.)
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To: Savage Beast
CORRECTION: Once Americans would have recoiled in horror and disgust at the depravities
50 posted on 05/31/2024 7:36:43 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If they can do it to him, they can do it to us.)
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To: McGruff

After the Trump verdict, the Zeepers have been told by their bosses to stand down for 48-72 hours.


51 posted on 05/31/2024 7:36:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: McGruff

I think we should give Putin a list of targets for his surgical strikes with hypersonic missiles. There are some situations that can be improved for both the American citizen and Russia - kind of a win-win.


52 posted on 05/31/2024 7:37:08 AM PDT by meyer ("When, in the course of human events,....")
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To: Savage Beast

Ronald Reagan won the Cold War without firing a shot.


The Hawks turned on Reagan after he agreed to meet Gorby in Rejkjavik. They felt betrayed. But Reagan was right!

And he wanted a “Marshall Plan” for Russia, to try to build their economy. But Bush and Clinton just wanted to kick Russia when it was down. So you got Putin.


53 posted on 05/31/2024 7:37:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

The West is being controlled by psychotic criminals. They will be the end of us all.

The arrogant United States government thinks it can do whatever it wants , wherever it wants, whenever it wants. Right up to being a hostile actor, projecting military power through a vassal state on the 2100 mile border of a nuclear power. The United States government is insane…may it burn and rot in Hell.


54 posted on 05/31/2024 7:42:55 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (We have not yet achieved peak crazy)
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To: Savage Beast
I never understood how millions of Germans could believe the nazi propaganda and follow Hitler down the Road to Hell--until the 21st century.

Hitler at least promised order and prosperity in their society.

on the other hand, I always wondered how Chinese could accept the call to disorder and chaos, and allow red guards (organized by Mao), to roam the streets, smashing-up 1000 year-old cultural relics and institutions, denounce and kill their teachers, monks, priests, opposition politicians, and even fighting themselves. They literally promised destruction - and still people followed.

55 posted on 05/31/2024 7:44:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: dfwgator

“The former dictator was dragged from a drainpipe, where he had been hiding after his convoy was hit by fire while trying to flee Sirte as the town fell.

But Mahmoud Shammam says violence towards Gaddafi was to be expected.

“If a group of revolutionaries capture a killer who shed their blood for 42 years, do you think they would kiss his head?” he said.

“He killed young men and described them as rats, he launched Grad missiles against them, aircraft bombed them and tanks shelled them, he raped their women.

“What else do you think they would have done to Gaddafi?”

With Gaddafi now buried and much of his family in exile or dead, his son and one-time heir Saif al-Islam Gaddafi appears to be the last family member still on the run.


56 posted on 05/31/2024 7:47:18 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: McGruff


57 posted on 05/31/2024 7:53:43 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: meyer

Great idea!
I’m sure the Putin Puffers will think it’s all worth it if their town gets hit and they are considered collateral damage.

It’s for the cause ya know!

Maybe the DAX will go up big time?


58 posted on 05/31/2024 7:57:29 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: McGruff

And what is stopping Russia from giving advanced missiles to insurgents around the merit, Red Sea and the Persian Gulf leading to the sinking of cargo ships and warships? Nothing.


59 posted on 05/31/2024 7:58:43 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

You clowns keep advocating for a hot war with Russia and somehow you think the war will not be fought here at home. Stupidity and evil.


60 posted on 05/31/2024 8:01:52 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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