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Germany okays Ukraine's use of German-supplied weapons on targets in Russia following US policy change
Fox News ^ | May 31, 2024

Posted on 05/31/2024 4:37:51 AM PDT by McGruff

The German government said Friday that Ukraine can use German-supplied weapons against Russian attacks from positions just over their joint border, in a significant policy change that came a day after U.S. President Joe Biden gave Kyiv a green light to strike back with American weapons at Russian military assets targeting the country’s second-largest city.

A German government statement noted that, in recent weeks, Russia has prepared, coordinated and carried out attacks on Ukraine's northeastern Kharkiv region, in particular from areas just over the border in Russia.

"Together we are convinced that Ukraine has the right under international law to defend itself against these attacks," the statement said. "For this, it can also use the weapons delivered for that purpose in accordance with its international legal commitments, including the ones delivered by us,"

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TOPICS: Extended News; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: germany; killkillkillforpeace; mic; russia; thomasnewdick; tothelastukrainian; tylerrogoway; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersthrilled
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To: McGruff

In the meantime, Russia will keep taking more and more Uke territory. The Ukes? They’ll just terrorize the Ruskie civilian population with flying bombs, similar to the V1 and V2 Nazi method, like they did with the shelling of Donetsk since 2014, which was stopped a few months ago finally.


21 posted on 05/31/2024 5:42:07 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Phoenix8; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; ..

Ukraine ping

Phoenix8: [The risk of escalation to a nuclear war is not worth the dubious value of bleeding Russia dry.

Ukraine isn’t part of NATO, if we are going to all die let’s die for something we legally have a duty to protect.]


For the longest time it was held that Russians could field thousands of Russian servicemen, kill thousands of US troops, as they did in Korea and Vietnam, but the reverse would trigger a Russian nuclear first strike. Then Trump killed hundreds of Russians in Syria, and **crickets**.

The issue for Putin is that his nuclear trigger is attached to a metaphorical shotgun pointed at his own head. Pull it and the ensuing retaliation kills him and his entire clan. Hitler wasn’t, in principle, against gassing people. Hence Treblinka and Sobibor. Fear of retaliation in kind kept his chemical arsenal untouched, except against civilians who could not retaliate. For much the same reason, Putin is unlikely to authorize a nuclear attack on a nuclear state with good early-warning systems and a robust counterstrike capability - a finely-honed sense of self-preservation.

Trump said he’d send ballistic missile subs to the Baltic Sea if the Russians made any more nuclear threats. Flight time to Moscow? Single digit minutes. The point was to emphasize to Putin that if he nukes the US, he will join his fellow Muscovites in a gigantic funeral pyre.

I’ve never been convinced that any other US president would try to kill every last Russian in exchange for a Russian nuclear strike. Trump is the exception. When he said the US could win in Afghanistan by exterminating its people, it’s clear that the thought had occurred to him as a live option, but the level of offense (3,000 dead on 9/11) made such an option unacceptable to most Americans. But tens of millions of dead Americans? With apologies to Halsey, if that occurs under Trump, Russian will be spoken only in hell.

Most US presidents are New Testament, turn the other cheek leaders. Trump is one of the few exceptions, an old Testament leader. That is why Putin fears Trump.

For Putin, this war is about historical legacy, personal glory. The nuclear extinction of Russia and its relegation to the status of Amalekites, a people killed to the last, known to the world only through the accounts of their mortal enemies, would go against those goals. That is why, as Hitler eschewed chemical attacks against the Allies, while gassing millions of helpless civilians, Putin will not initiate a nuclear attack on NATO - the metaphorical shotgun shell aimed at his own head that is attached to his nuclear trigger.


22 posted on 05/31/2024 5:53:38 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: JonPreston

So you keep saying, I disagree


23 posted on 05/31/2024 5:58:47 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: McGruff

https://amgreatness.com/2024/05/31/it-seems-that-no-one-wants-to-end-the-ukraine-war-except-for-trump/

The NWO and the global reset depends on the west takeover of Russia and all of its assets the land has to offer.

They won’t be done until they destroy what is Russia, take it for themselves, and replace it with their foul agenda.


24 posted on 05/31/2024 5:59:54 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

Are you aware that many on your ping list are banned or missing? It’s probably a good time to update it.


25 posted on 05/31/2024 6:00:56 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

Your country is fascist mess. Please stay out of America’s foreign policy.


So you admit to not being an American, eh? How’s St. Petersburg, Russia this tine of year?


26 posted on 05/31/2024 6:02:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BlackbirdSST; canuck_conservative

Buzz off, dumbass
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You’ve got a lot of nerve calling anyone on this forum a dumbass, dumbass.


Agree.

Go fix Canada, dumb@ss!


27 posted on 05/31/2024 6:03:14 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: blitz128

He’s a Russian, of course he’ll be disagreeable.


28 posted on 05/31/2024 6:04:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: McGruff

Russia will probably destroy Berlin and certainly can do it.


29 posted on 05/31/2024 6:04:44 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Gnome1949
Russia will probably destroy Berlin and certainly can do it.

Can they take Manhattan first?

30 posted on 05/31/2024 6:05:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gnome1949

Russia will probably destroy Berlin and certainly can do it.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!


31 posted on 05/31/2024 6:07:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

32 posted on 05/31/2024 6:09:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

Chinese Government has announced that US actions have led their ban on export aircraft and aerospace products to the US and Europe. The new export controls are expected to have signification global implications for the US and global aerospace industry and projects. The export controls alone will delay any products that are allowed.

The EU and US are now complaining loudly about the restrictions. Western companies are stating that they will psuh to pull their industry and trade from China.

China has stated that on 1 July the export requirements go into effect. Distruptions to the global aerospace market and the world is seeing a shift in the global economy.

The US began the trends by using threats, tariffs, and sanctions against other countries. China is not only reacting to US actions, but asserting it’s own sovereignty and strategic requirements.

The global supply chain will have to scramble as the West depends heavily on components and parts from China. Many companies will have to increase investment in their own production of items covered by this new policy.

The world is moving into a multi-polar environment where the US and EU lead one trade bloc, and Brics leads the other.

Technological competition, strategic, and economic concerns are driving the spilt between the US/EU and the rest of the world.


33 posted on 05/31/2024 6:19:07 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: PIF

I think he pretends to not be, all concerned about “USA”, but his “I am literally outside the warehouse” when wild berry warehouse burnt down was classic


34 posted on 05/31/2024 6:22:22 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Zhang Fei

Putin will not initiate a nuclear attack on NATO - the metaphorical shotgun shell aimed at his own head that is attached to his nuclear trigger.


That and Xi Jinping would be pissed, cutting off the civilian & military aid Russia needs to wage war. Worse, Putin was forced, in the last meeting, to sign an aid contract with China explicitly forbidding Russian from using nuclear weapons.


35 posted on 05/31/2024 6:24:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blitz128

“Russia has already left that door open, by attacking directly from Russian soil “

All that was left was the identification of American Satellite and Intelligence coming from the Pentagon to Ukraine.

Now that Russia is identifying the Pentagon as providing information directly, this is an attack from American soil.

The targeting data provided by the Pentagon is required as Ukraine has no source to obtain this information. Additonally Britan and France have already admitted that they use their own contracted personnel to handle their missiles and they themselves provide the targeting data and loading the missiles.

We are entering the phase where something has to give.

We will witness some type of damage to Poland, Romania, Ukraine and possibly French/British/USA interests because we are adding a level of technology to the war that is highly classified and to which the Ukrainians are not privy.

One step Russia may take is to do something they have never done in this war, which is to target all the bridges in Ukraine; the second is to completely knock out the electlical and power grid. Without electric Ukraine cannot use trains or provide the necessities for it’s population. Without bridges it will hinder every aspect of Ukrainian economy and military.

Russia has also withheld using its full military strength to date. There are over 700,000 military personnel in Russia that have not joined the nearly 500,000 currently working in the conflict.

In July Russia will graduate over 300,000 soldiers, and if they actually divert 30,000 to Syria..., and divert 20,000 to Africa..., the damage to US/French in those regions may be severely damaged.

The US is in serious dipomatic trouble. Saudi Arabia was going into Brics. The US is tyring to keep them in the US orbit with the F-35 and giving them a Peace Conference this fall.

I imagine that the vacuum in Africa created by Macron’s failed diplomacy and being run out of several countries may result in the enemies of France getting support from Russia and expanding the “proxy” conflict there.

Biden has serious problems going into the election - now China and Russia are taking 2/3s of the world population in one trade bloc with a Gold Based trade; the US has gone to war with Iraq and Lybia over plans to implement Gold Based currrencies - our Empire is based on fiat which is printed in increasing amounts to conduct military operations worldwide in support maintaining compliance in our trade bloc system. Biden has started the isolation of America and the collaspe of the EU economies.


36 posted on 05/31/2024 6:36:17 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: McGruff

The German government is determined to defend Ukraine but not Germany!
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4241229/posts
Knife attacker stabs multiple people on LIVE STREAM in German city ... attacked anti-Islamist party


37 posted on 05/31/2024 6:42:42 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Those Russians in Syria were Wagner contractors. With 30,000 Russian headed to Syria in July and August, do you really think gloating about killing 300 Russians in Syria is something to wave in Putin’s face or to taunt Russia over?
I am sure with 30,000 additional Russia troops in Syria (20,000 more in Africa), that the US illegally occupying part of Syria they are going to be repaid. Now that Biden has decided to send targeting data and technicans to attack Russia directly, don’t whine if Russia gives the US a black eye in Syria and runs us out. Then too there is the issue of Israel.

There is also the issue of taking two or three radars in Russia - open source analysis states this was done to allow the fleet in Bahrain open access to launch missiles undetected against Russia. Do you really think that fleet is going to be allowed to sit there with the Russian homeland blinded by US strikes under the guise of Ukraine with their nuclear missiles?

I really think we are headed to a day when Britian wakes up and their North Sea Oil platforms are all disabled or destroyed. The day when France’s remaining colonies’ are under assault by proxies, and the US is overwhelemed rushing the remnants of the survivors in Syria and Iraq home.

The day is coming when NATO sends their troops and Russia brings in Afghanis, Iranians, Syrians, North Koreans, etc.

NATO will economically implode because they thought they could make Russia economically implode - it is actually too funny watching the woke DNC mind try to push it’s BS at the world level.


38 posted on 05/31/2024 6:50:28 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: McGruff

With Trump’s conviction the Zeepers are out in force today. No surprise.


39 posted on 05/31/2024 6:50:31 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: PIF
So you admit to not being an American, eh?

I was posting to a Canadian grandmother, you dolt.

40 posted on 05/31/2024 7:06:17 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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