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Ukraine Has Lost – Nobody Ever Expected it to Win
Armstrong Economics ^ | 21 May 24 | Martin Armstr

Posted on 05/21/2024 7:33:30 AM PDT by delta7

I appeared on Russia Today over the weekend because it is important to show the Russian people that the West is not all hateful Neocons. However, the forecasts are NEVER my personal opinion. That is why so many governments turn to us.

I do not tell them only what they want to hear. Ukraine has lost. Our computer has flat-lined on its future warning: if the Ukrainian people still want to have anything left, they better dump Zelensky NOW and seek peace as he promised to get elected. Peace is ONLY attainable when there is communication.

Even Estonia is courting disaster, taking direction also from the Neocons, just like Zelensky. Putin nor the Russian people want to invade Europe. If you do not NEGOTIATE instead of hurling threats, you will force them to defend themselves, but this time, China will join, and Europe will lose.

The Neocons will say whatever they need to go to war. Time Magazine reported the comments of Colin Powell who made his famous speech to sell the Iraq invasion before the United Nations. He said years later – they lied to him.

Well, I was quite surprised when it started to fall apart. You know, ‘Well, there aren’t three sources; it’s really one source.’ What? And then suddenly a number of members in the intelligence community at fairly senior levels started writing books saying, ‘Well we knew [the source of the intelligence] was flaky.’ You did?

Even Tony Blair made a public apology for all the lost lives based on the lies presented as valid intelligence reports. Yet here we go again, but this time, Russia and China do have weapons of mass destruction and will use them when they are pushed. These people will never stop. They just hate humanity and can’t sleep at night worrying that someone in the world is doing something they disapprove of.

We are being hurled into World War III, and our future of the world will be different both financially and geopolitically, all on propaganda and lies as always. Those who are so caught up in the propaganda to hate Russians, trust me, you are courting your own demise.

If you think Russia can be defeated, conquered, and broken up with no harm to the USA or that China would stand by and just watch, you are a real fool.

It is easy to get into war, but it NEVER ends when you thought. Blackrock and others threw in billions believing the Neocon BS that Russia is weak and this will be over in a few weeks. They will lose every dime unless Biden bails them out. Ukraine has lost. It is a shame so many people were inspired by hatred. This would be no different from expecting Cuba to defeat the United States.

Mikhail Khodorkovsky, is an exiled Russian oligarch who has now admitted he “backed the wrong horse” “Ukraine has already lost the War” he said after asking his Ukrainian “friend’s” to cover their ears. As I said on Russian TV, NOBODY expected Ukraine to win.

That was the propaganda the press was given – the great battle like Star Wars fighting against the evil Empire. But this is not a movie. The Neocons wanted Ukraine to kill Russians, with no regard to how many Ukrainians would be left.

Then, they even bragged how the Ukrainians would fight to the very last man – which we are rapidly approaching.

There has never been any consideration for Ukrainian lives, and Zelensky is counting on being swept away to Miami when the last Ukrainian falls.

am sorry, but this is NOT my personal opinion. I must report what our computer projects. I have warned that Ukraine would lose. From the beginning, I would get hate mail claiming I was putting out Russian propaganda. They did not realize that they were the fools.

I reported at the end of 2022 that 100,000 Ukrainians had already died. The hate mail came that such a number was Russian propaganda. Then Ursula said 100,000 in her speech, and Zelensky had her remove that information because it was “classified” information.

My info always came from the Ukrainian side. I am not stupid – the first victim in war is always the truth. As Churchill put it, the truth needs a bodyguard of lies to protect it.

I am stating this now. If the Ukrainian people do not accept peace and overthrow Zelensky, who takes his orders from the Neocons and has betrayed his own country, Ukraine will not exist. The refusal to accept peace means that Russia can take all of Ukraine, and then we are looking at the stupidity of European leaders who ONLY want war to destroy Europe for a third time. This time, the monuments may not survive, ending tourism in Europe thereafter.

These Neocons have been waging war since WWII and have lost EVERY single one of them. Even MacNamara, who was the Neocon that took us into Vietnam, confessed before he died – we were wrong. It was a civil war. They thought Russia was behind that when they were not. Some 58,000 Americans died for that mistake, and countless millions of Vietnamese.


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To: DUMBGRUNT
This should work

The missiles are flying!

Hallelujah!

Hallelujah!


21 posted on 05/21/2024 8:36:14 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: delta7

Not that hat it matters one bit what I feel, think or believe but it was my opinion right from the beginning of this conflict that Ukraine will be losing, and I stated so in my earlier posts. Russia may have thrown in the towel when it came to Afghanistan as to them it wasn’t worthwhile and a losing proposition, while on the other hand the US jumped in with all fours not only losing a ton of money as well as unnecessary life’s.

If nothing else it kept the industrial complex producing war machinery going as well as greasing corrupt politicians hands here and abroad at US tax payer’s expense. But as I stated earlier before Russia will give up on Ukraine hell will freeze over. Some of these war mongers we have in our regime and direct the actions behind the scenes just don’t give up easily and the word diplomacy is something they are either unfamiliar with or never heard of.


22 posted on 05/21/2024 8:54:50 AM PDT by Saintgermain ( )
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To: delta7

“I appeared on Russia Today”

He might want to check his ATM Cards. The days of Freedom are OVER for most of the West, and now the governments are more interested in protecting themselves FROM their people, as you often see here when Operatives call anti-Ukraine War types “Russian Stooges”, or whatever.


23 posted on 05/21/2024 8:58:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: delta7

“ If you think Russia can be defeated, conquered, and broken up with no harm to the USA or that China would stand by and just watch, you are a real fool.”

I don’t think I’ve heard or read anywhere anyone suggesting Russia be invaded and conquered. Russians are so paranoid it’s crazy. It’s funny, if you read the breathless stories like this without mentioning the country’s name you would think it was the muzzies screaming and wailing.

No wonder these people haven’t accomplished much in the past 100 years, they are too busy seeing enemies under every rock and behind every tree. I guess that makes it easier to control the population.


24 posted on 05/21/2024 8:59:38 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: Vermont Lt

The zeepers have indeed suggested just that repeatedly over the past two years, be honest.


25 posted on 05/21/2024 9:01:04 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Vermont Lt

I don’t think I’ve heard or read anywhere anyone suggesting Russia be invaded and conquered.
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I guess you have fell for western MSM narrative ….plenty of info out there, look deeper into our DOS, western think tanks, beginning years ago…you really believe Nuland ( “ Miss Cookies”), McCain, etc…were out there at Maidan just handing out cookies…?

You are funny.

https://cepa.org/article/russias-collapse-good-news-for-everyone/

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/11/19/wishful-thinking-en…..and on and on, since the Soviet breakup.

Well, my friend, the West’s plans are ( as the Ukie Nazis say) “ Kaput”, and they will pay a huge price for their ill conceived plans.


26 posted on 05/21/2024 9:25:36 AM PDT by delta7
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To: marcusmaximus
Lol! I appeared on Russia Today over the weekend

Well, at least he didn't do something moronic like cite Newsweek as some clowns do around here.

27 posted on 05/21/2024 9:43:27 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh
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To: BobL

and now the governments are more interested in protecting themselves FROM their people,
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Exactly, J6, many, many protests in the EU ( under reported), …as governments start losing control, they always become more “authoritarian”…..most visible : the US and EU have lost control of their economies, and unpayable debt….which further increases inflation, record high interest, higher taxes, currency devaluations….and revolt….we are on our way.

This Ukie war has destroyed world trade, commerce, ( thanks Joe- you knucklehead), and dethroned the USD….which of course fuels further unrest.

I harp on the upcoming Brics Summit, it will be a huge nail in our coffin, for many reasons….challenge: see how the corrupted western media will portray it as…..? Best to do as I do- seek out the transcripts….i did that with Vlad and Xi’s historical meeting a few days ago- it is clear they will beat the US into “ irrelevance “.

Exciting times, reading the right ( Truth) information will lead to prosperity…being spoon fed by western MSM with lead to loss of wealth and even poverty.


28 posted on 05/21/2024 10:01:27 AM PDT by delta7
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To: SaxxonWoods

We keep half-ass fighting and losing wars.
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Because we are severely divided…..not so with the Russian Federation. They are still enlisting volunteers at record amounts, they view this as a war with the West, their resolve and leadership is rock hard.

Their lack of debt, huge energy and commodity reserves, huge, say again huge manufacturing base, and unity insures their “victory”. Sorry war cheerleaders, you should have done your homework before pulling this ill fated stunt.


29 posted on 05/21/2024 10:09:06 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Ukraine was never expected to win. It was just a vehicle to launder a trillion tax payer dollars back to politicians.


30 posted on 05/21/2024 10:16:21 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Kazan

So many make the mistake to believe that their were two sides in this conflict. Those rallying for one side or the other didnt necessarily believe or intend any of the things they said, it was only to make you believe it so they could achieve their goals.


31 posted on 05/21/2024 10:16:25 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: delta7

I don’t believe anyone, except my wife.

I especially don’t believe anything said or written by Russians. And I 100% don’t believe what the Russian lovers on free republic write.

Russians and Eastern Europeans in general tend to be boisterous and braggarts. They are a notch up from Persians, and then Arabs.


32 posted on 05/21/2024 10:17:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: delta7
Martin Armstrong is not a military expert or analyst nor is he conversant with the facts on the ground. The Russian offensive intended to take Kharkiv has suffered severe casualties to little effect.

Russia is again threatening the use of tactical nuclear weapons -- a sure sign that things are not going well for them. So also is the sacking of the Defense Minister in favor of an economist a sign of dissatisfaction. Putin seems to recognize that the cost of the Ukraine war is not politically or economically sustainable for his regime in the long run.

Meanwhile, Ukraine continues to pummel Crimea and impose casualties on the Russian forces and supplies and logistic structures there. And Ukrainian air defenses continue to hold and improve.

As it happens, fundamental Russian weaknesses in truck-born logistics make it hard for them to mass troops and equipment and sustain them in the field away from railheads. This limits Russia's ability to sustain offensives deep into enemy territory. Unlike in WW II, Russia today does not have the benefit of an endless supply of American made trucks via the Lend Lease program.

We seem to be in an era in which new military technology in the form of masses of cheap, effective drones is shifting the balance to the defense. With Ukraine getting new cash and military supplies and equipment from the US and NATO, they are unlikely to collapse.

33 posted on 05/21/2024 10:25:57 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

😆😂🤣


34 posted on 05/21/2024 10:51:44 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Tierra del Fuego is nice this time of year.


35 posted on 05/21/2024 12:04:19 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: Rockingham

Drones are cute and effective, except what happens when the factories are laid to waste? Technology makes war more acceptable, but what wins and loses wars is the fact of who can kill enough of an enemy to force them to BEG to PLEAD for peace. America? C’mon Man, we will fold like a K mart lounge chair. We cannot even fight successfully against the DEI, antifa, and a bunch of trannies and fags.


36 posted on 05/21/2024 12:27:35 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: delta7

Romney, Bush and all the other neo-cons will never give up. The stars and whistles of this idea of “spreading democracy” has them running around with blinders on.


37 posted on 05/21/2024 1:01:50 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Vermont Lt

If only as much resources and effort were put into opposing China - then again there is no money to be made in Russia.


38 posted on 05/21/2024 1:05:04 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Vermont Lt

To: delta7
“ If you think Russia can be defeated, conquered, and broken up with no harm to the USA or that China would stand by and just watch, you are a real fool.”

China is salivating over the possibility of getting their grubby little hands on all of the natural resources located in Siberia.


39 posted on 05/21/2024 1:38:49 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: delta7
Whenever I hear the word "neocons", my brain disengages.

These people are not conservatives in any meaningful sense. Calling them "neocons" is ridiculous. Nor are they the anti-communists who fought against the Soviet world empire during the Cold War, as this writer suggests. Those pushing this war are secular socialist globalists who hate traditional Western civilization and especially Christianity.
40 posted on 05/21/2024 1:52:55 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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