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Biden 'is offering Israel top secret intelligence detailing exact locations of Hamas leaders and their hidden tunnels in bid to stave off full-scale invasion of Rafah'
Daily Mail ^ | 5/11/24 | James Gordon

Posted on 05/12/2024 4:20:30 AM PDT by Libloather

Biden administration officials are said to be offering Israel exact locations of Hamas leaders in a bid to stop the IDF invading the Gazan city of Rafah.

The president has reportedly offered highly-classified information that also includes the locations of Hamas' secret tunnels to try and stave-off what he fears could be a humanitarian catastrophe.

The detailed and sensitive talks serve to illustrate the stakes facing Israel and the U.S. Rafah is the last city in Gaza that has not been bombed by Israel.

According to the Washington Post, the U.S. is also proposing to assist in the construction of thousands of shelters to create tent cities and help with the setting up of delivery systems for vital supplies like food, water, and medicine.

This support will help ensure that 1.3 Palestinians that fled and were already evacuated from other parts of Gaza under Israeli orders and now sheltering in Rafah have access to livable conditions, rather than being exposed to further hardship.

Israel has promised an invasion using 'extreme force' - something the Biden administration is particularly concerned about, particularly given the already dire humanitarian situation in Gaza. The current goal is to essentially prevent unnecessary destruction and minimize harm to civilians.

Israeli says it must go into Rafah in order to complete the job of wiping out Hamas.

But the job is easier said than done as destroying city's extensive underground tunnel network where many Hamas fighters and leaders are based, would endanger the lives of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

'We have serious concerns about how Israel has prosecuted this campaign, and that could all come to a head in Rafah,' a senior administration official said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Hot Tabasco

If Israel acted like all other nations toward ‘civilians’, Gaza would have been over and done with a week after it started.


21 posted on 05/12/2024 4:42:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: maddog55
"I'm guessing our top secret intelligence is far inferior to Israels.”

Too true. So, our giving the Israeli's the thing they can get (do get) on their own, and better than we can provide is like giving a band aid to a hemophiliac

22 posted on 05/12/2024 4:43:23 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Angelino97

“Why didn’t the Mossad warn us about 9/11?

Their spies were following and watching the hijackers.”

ummmmmm, that really isn’t the mossads job to do. israel was in the middle of an intifada in 2001, i imagine most of their resources were not tied up with “Al Qaeda”

the question you SHOULD be asking is:
Why didn’t the United States intel pick up that 20 (TWENTY) hijackers were actually trained for their attack on US soil and multiple others others who planned the attack?

you make it seem like the mossad has guys following terrorists in cars 24 hours a day monitoring what they do.

If you want to place blame for 9/11 failures, please blame the CIA and the countless other agencies (and the CLinton admin) that completely failed in their job and actually enabled the attack by allowing the enemy into our perimeter.

BTW, the USA should be expecting another terror attack soon considering that there are literally a few million of “those people” within the US borders.
9/11.......San bernardino.........pulse club shooting....boston marathon....2017 manhattan ramming attack ..........
for all we know, the hush-hush Mandalay bay shooting may be Islamic terror related........


23 posted on 05/12/2024 4:45:59 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: Jaysin
ummmmmm, that really isn’t the mossads job to do.

True. That isn't the Mossad's job.

But they were doing it. They were here in the U.S., spying on the hijackers.

And since they saw what was happening, they -- our Greatest Ally and Best Friend! -- could have warned us.

24 posted on 05/12/2024 4:49:59 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
I watched a recent Triggernometry podcast where an ex-CIA officer said that the CIA is as Woke as any liberal university (due mostly to the fact that most CIA employees are relatively recent grads of those universities).

And, as you would expect, they hate Trump.

25 posted on 05/12/2024 4:51:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Libloather

Why would he have held on to it for so long? Quid pro quo?


26 posted on 05/12/2024 4:53:45 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: Libloather

Total BS poopy pants spin.


27 posted on 05/12/2024 4:55:27 AM PDT by Track9 (If you want to know about human nature, read a power tool user manual. )
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To: Angelino97
The CIA knew all about 9/11 and took no action. They have admitted as much. And because of that failure they completely overhauled their system.

And now, due to this overhaul, they have a completely Woke army of intelligence analysts and officers who are even more dangerous to the country.

28 posted on 05/12/2024 4:55:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Angelino97

We were told. It was ignored


29 posted on 05/12/2024 4:59:26 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: edwinland

That too


30 posted on 05/12/2024 5:00:31 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Libloather

Israel was betrayed by Biden. You don’t do business with people like that. They will decline and go in anyway I think.


31 posted on 05/12/2024 5:02:09 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan (Repeatedl)
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To: DeplorablePaul

My guess is that the US has Hamas under comprehensive electronic surveillance and has cracked their encryption.


32 posted on 05/12/2024 5:03:25 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: Angelino97

We were warned. It was ignored because idiots thought it couldn’t happen here


33 posted on 05/12/2024 5:03:40 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Libloather
USA offers Israel top secret intelligence on Hamas?

I do not believe this.

This is pure political deception by the Biden White House and the Democratic Party.

Fact - 90% of what the USA knows about Hamas is intelligence that Israel gives to the USA!

34 posted on 05/12/2024 5:05:41 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Nifster
What, and how much, were we told? Specifics, or just vague warnings?

Do you have sources and links?

Of course the Mossad will claim innocence. But as I don't trust our own government, why should I trust foreign governments?

35 posted on 05/12/2024 5:05:52 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: RoosterRedux
The CIA knew all about 9/11 and took no action. They have admitted as much.

What did the CIA know about 9/11? What have they admitted? Do you have sources and links?

36 posted on 05/12/2024 5:07:06 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

you’re assuming they knew exactly what was going on which I doubt they did.

people have this romantic vision that intel agencies know exactly what is going on all the time.

have you ever noticed that whenever there is a large scale terror attack in the world, then somehow some news report says “that so-and-so intel agency had alerted the intel agency of the target country”?

a vast majority of this type of intel is speculation and bits and pieces. they rarely have the full picture of what is about to go down and when it will happen.

And why would the US need a warning from Mossad (or the MI6 or ANY other intel agency for 9/11????
the same people tried to blow up the same building only 8 years earlier!!! Wasn’t that enough of a warning??? Seems like the US intel should have been aware of what was going down on their own turf.


37 posted on 05/12/2024 5:07:29 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: Libloather
Biden administration officials are said to be offering Israel exact locations of Hamas leaders

Wherever they were, they aren't there now.

The only way I want to hear about Hamas leader's location, is to learn where they were killed.

38 posted on 05/12/2024 5:07:50 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: Libloather
We probably stole this intel from Israel. They're the real intel experts.

The how did they miss the 7th...because everything was done with real spies..on the ground.

39 posted on 05/12/2024 5:09:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Angelino97

“Yet after Oct 7, some people here were attacking the CIA for not warning Israel about the attack.”

The CIA had no clue just like the Israeli intel agencies all failed.

It’s part of the “blame” culture


40 posted on 05/12/2024 5:10:25 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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