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New US civil service rules look to prevent a future Trump purge of federal workers
Independent UK via MSN ^ | 04 04 2024 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 04/05/2024 4:47:50 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

The Biden administration has finalized a new set of regulations to prevent a future president from initiating a wholesale purge of the US civil service along the lines of what former president Donald Trump envisioned during the final months of his term.

The new rules, published in the Federal Register on Thursday and which would go into effect on 9 May, are meant to provide the 2.2 million nonpartisan civil servants who staff the executive branch with more defined protections that cannot be easily stripped away by presidential fiat.

They were inspired by an October 2020 executive order issued by Mr Trump which created a new category of federal employee known as “Schedule F” which encompassed anyone working in what the order described as “confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating positions” — a classification that had generally been reserved for the political appointees who come and go with each change in administration.

According to experts, this could have encompassed most of the non-partisan experts — scientists, doctors, lawyers, economists — who are supposed to advise and inform policymakers in a way that is fact-driven and devoid of politics. The order stripped most civil service protections from these employees, allowing them to be fired without cause.

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To: 4Runner

In more ways than one since public service has come to mean that the public exists to service its so-called servants.


21 posted on 04/05/2024 5:44:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: yesthatjallen

If Biden can issue a regulation then President Trump can issue another regulation doing away with the first one.


22 posted on 04/05/2024 5:47:30 AM PDT by Flint
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To: yesthatjallen

Most of them would never get hired in the private sector. They depend on not having to worry about getting fired or losing their job. Grateful DemocRATS. They vote RAT every time.


23 posted on 04/05/2024 5:49:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I can't wait until the "media" is printing headlines like, "Trump Reverses Biden-era Policy.")
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To: yesthatjallen

All Trump has to do is follow the rules change/publishing process properly and these changes are toast.


24 posted on 04/05/2024 5:52:35 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Gnome1949
There is a place out in the western desert area where old military airplanes are put in storage. Create a big tent city there. Put desks with no telephones on them and a cell phone jamming system on the property.

Put a case of paper on one side of each desk and a small plastic bin on the other side, and a couple of ball point pens. Move the persons job location to a desk in a tent.

Give them their work instructions, to take each piece of paper from the case, make a small, no bigger than 1/2", X on the upper left corner of a sheet of paper and repeat till all the paper is in the small bin. Let them sit there all day doing that. If one makes it through the case of paper then their next instruction would be to may a O beside the X and move the paper back to the cardboard box the paper came in. And so on. I think you could have a lot of resignations in jig time.

25 posted on 04/05/2024 5:59:03 AM PDT by Flint
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To: odawg

You would think so but as soon as that is tried a Federal Judge from Hawaii blocks the reversal. Think Dreamers


26 posted on 04/05/2024 6:00:29 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: catnipman

Not Nome, Wake or Midway Island.


27 posted on 04/05/2024 6:01:09 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, it is obvious that this moron does not know what the word “nonpartisan” means.


28 posted on 04/05/2024 6:10:07 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: yesthatjallen

In my experience Fed employees fall into 2 groups. The smaller group (much smaller) are really working hard and take their job (and any oaths) to heart.
The second, and MUCH larger group are politicians only looking to get into a better job with more “control and oversite” of the poor fool contractors who actually do the work.

I worked as a research contractor for the DOE for over 40 years. During that time the first groups has shrunk and the second has ballooned.

I am glad that I finally retired before I lost my mind and what little temper I still have control over.


29 posted on 04/05/2024 6:18:27 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I guess you don’t realize that the vast majority of Federal employees do not live or work in the District of Columbia. The Department of the Interior has facilities and personnel in every state already.


30 posted on 04/05/2024 6:25:49 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: yesthatjallen

So, rather than being purged, the apparatchiks can be ordered TAD to Lower Slobbovia


31 posted on 04/05/2024 6:31:15 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: yesthatjallen

The more that the Democrats do to seal their control of the US forever the more it appears the Republicans don’t care to oppose them or are not capable of governing any more and have just become the party of Prima Donnas.


32 posted on 04/05/2024 6:33:21 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: yesthatjallen

Regulations are not a Congressional purview. They are promulgated by agencies.


33 posted on 04/05/2024 6:48:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: antidemoncrat

If it doesn’t go thru congress it is not law! They will all be fired the first week of DJT’s Presidency . Have faith and continue to pray for our country and DJT.


34 posted on 04/05/2024 6:50:35 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: yesthatjallen

2.2 million nonpartisan civil servants.
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35 posted on 04/05/2024 7:10:54 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: yesthatjallen

Can’t rules be reversed via executive order?


36 posted on 04/05/2024 7:11:42 AM PDT by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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To: odawg

This was my thought as well. What the Dems are doing is setting up trip-wires for lawsuits, to make the purge consume lots of resources and time.


37 posted on 04/05/2024 7:29:14 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: frogjerk

Trump should announce that his administration will not abide by any court’s injunction except the Supreme Court. Then that will put it to the Congress to decide if he stays in office. It really is long past time that any Federal judge can stop the Congress & President. There should be a Constitutional show down.


38 posted on 04/05/2024 7:35:10 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: yesthatjallen

Why are we bothering to “vote”?


39 posted on 04/05/2024 7:40:11 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: PIF

That’s because Congress passed much of that responsibility to those agencies. Congress certainly doesn’t want to be blamed for a bad regulatory decision.


40 posted on 04/05/2024 7:49:26 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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