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Republicans warm to Social Security, Medicare reform as 2024 election nearsEntitlement programs account for roughly 70% of government spending
Fox News ^ | 04/01/2024 | Elizabeth Elkind

Posted on 04/01/2024 5:47:53 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan

Lawmakers have long shied away from serious discussions about entitlement reform, but the issue appears to be coming back into focus for Republicans who are wary about the growing national debt.

"I definitely have noticed it," veteran GOP strategist Doug Heye told Fox News Digital of the uptick in GOP-led discussions on the issue. "Republicans have talked about this for a long time, not always with specifics. But what tends to happen is, they talk about it, they get attacked, they fall back."

Congress just ended the fiscal year 2024 government-funding fight with President Biden signing a $1.2 trillion spending package into law last week and averting a partial government shutdown. But the ugly battle, which took six additional months after the end of fiscal year 2023, only accounted for the government’s discretionary spending – which makes up just over a quarter of annual federal funds..........

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: entitlement
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To: ClearCase_guy

So, talking about Social Security is just dumb.
Unless you are a Republican who wants to lose the election so that Donald Trump can’t solve any problems at all with a Democrat-controlled legislature.

I am going to post it. Joe Biden is accelerating the collapse. While these programs have deep issues, the stealing of the money for Illegals is ENORMOUS problem.
I don’t have an answer to fixing it all, but getting Joe Biden and the Democrats should be priority Number ONE to start.


21 posted on 04/01/2024 6:08:29 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan (Repeatedl)
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To: grobdriver

Cost of illegal immigration - $150 billion per year.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers-2023


22 posted on 04/01/2024 6:13:06 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it n)
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To: Pete Dovgan

https://publicconsultation.org/social-security/large-majorities-of-republicans-and-democrats-agree-on-steps-to-drastically-reduce-social-security-shortfall/


23 posted on 04/01/2024 6:13:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Pete Dovgan

Illegals first to get cut.


24 posted on 04/01/2024 6:15:29 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (DJ & JD 2024 (Trump-Vance))
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To: Pete Dovgan; All

Until they all vote en masse against sending endless money to Ukraine, Israel and whichever other country comes begging spare me the entitlement reform. As if a few months before a Presidential is the best time to hash out the details (I’m sure they have no nefarious reasons for bringing it up now).


25 posted on 04/01/2024 6:15:40 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Pete Dovgan

So, how many people (citizens or not) get benefits but never paid into either SS or Medicare?

Cut off the freeloaders and the problems go away. But the democRATS and RINOs need freeloaders so they can buy votes with other peoples’ money.


26 posted on 04/01/2024 6:16:28 AM PDT by meyer (Psalm 83)
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To: Pete Dovgan

Both of these programs are taxpayer funded. Social Security should be self sustaining if managed properly - meaning get the government out of it.

As far as Medicare, same thing, Government involvement and regulations hamstring the programs efficiency.


27 posted on 04/01/2024 6:16:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Pete Dovgan
Entitlement programs account for roughly 70% of government spending

”A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”

~ Alexander Fraser Tytler

Well, we’ve made it to almost 250 years, but the decline and fall are clearly not far off.

28 posted on 04/01/2024 6:17:41 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Pollard

yep, see #27.


29 posted on 04/01/2024 6:18:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Pete Dovgan
getting Joe Biden and the Democrats should be priority Number ONE to start

Which is precisely why having Republicans campaign on the idea that they will "fix" Social Security is a dumb idea.

The media will convince everyone that you want old people to starve. Congratulations. You just lose your election. And now you cannot "get" Joe Biden and the Democrats. Now they have all the power in the world. Power to give Social Security to illegal immigrants. All because you thought promising to "fix" Social Security was a good thing to talk about.

30 posted on 04/01/2024 6:18:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Pete Dovgan

Republicans are idiots. We’re 7 months from election and they are talking cutting social security and IVF treatments. Clearly they want to lose.


31 posted on 04/01/2024 6:27:04 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Pete Dovgan; All

Illegal, unconst. Ponzi schemes are broke from day ONE.

D.C. doesn’t even bother to pull back the curtain on these $200T+ UNFUNDED ‘liabilities’, pretending instead they can “save” ‘em.


32 posted on 04/01/2024 6:31:35 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Pete Dovgan

Yep, the stupid Republicans will be enticed by democrats to start making pronouncements on Social Security so they can be skewered during the election.

One would think that they could wait until after the election.


33 posted on 04/01/2024 6:34:54 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Openurmind

Social Security benefits and Medicare are NOT entitlement programs. Recipients pay into the programs out of every paycheck they receive all their working lives for Social Security, and we pay $143 per month now that we are retired for Medicare Advantage (Part B) and it comes directly out of our Social Security benefit. Without Part B, Medicare is basically bare bones coverage.


34 posted on 04/01/2024 6:37:37 AM PDT by 4Runner (It's okay, really it is, I'm on 500 mgs of Fukitol!)
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To: Pete Dovgan

I don’t have a problem with spending on social programs. I have a problem with graft and corruption and $600 toilet seats and $30,000 desks. Palatial offices for numbskulls. Too many government employees.


35 posted on 04/01/2024 6:39:05 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: Pete Dovgan
I don’t click on Fox News links, so I didn’t see the details.

What I DO see in the excerpt is some stupid GOP “strategist” who I’ve never even heard of … and no actual quotes from any Republican officials or candidates.

36 posted on 04/01/2024 6:39:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: 1Old Pro; Pete Dovgan

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Both of these programs are taxpayer funded. Social Security should be self sustaining if managed properly - meaning get the government out of it.

As far as Medicare, same thing, Government involvement and regulations hamstring the programs efficiency
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These ‘programs’ are ILLEGAL/UNCONST., yet many (esp. here) start with the “I ‘paid into’ (no, you didn’t)” or “WE can ‘fix’ ‘em (they could be self-sustaining , *IF*...)” *roll eyes*

Leave it to the (R)N(C) to begin any/all ‘talks’ accepting Socialist standing. *facepalm*


37 posted on 04/01/2024 6:41:41 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Pete Dovgan

Um, could it be that the gubmint has way too many blood sucking employees?

Downsize!


38 posted on 04/01/2024 6:45:05 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Just Give Me Truth.)
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To: meyer; Pete Dovgan

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Cut off the freeloaders and the problems go away. But the democRATS and RINOs need freeloaders so they can buy votes with other peoples’ money.
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No, “cutting off {X}” doesn’t ‘fix’ *ANY* illega/unconst. Ponzi scheme, such as SS/MediXYZ

As if $200T+ in these ‘unfunded liabilities’ came JUST from the “free-loaders” (def. didn’t HELP)

(R)N(C) concedes the debate before word one is uttered...again


39 posted on 04/01/2024 6:46:45 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: central_va

Bankrupt hardly. When does any wellfare and asylum $$$ go bankrupt? Never.

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They’ll just run the printing presses at a higher speed. The Fed, being the buyer of last resort, is there to fully enable their relentless spending.


40 posted on 04/01/2024 6:48:45 AM PDT by Starboard
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