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Maryland town suspends its entire police force, leaving residents to wonder why
Fox News ^ | March 21, 2024 | Lawrence Richard

Posted on 03/23/2024 7:16:52 PM PDT by george76

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To: Hot Tabasco

I used to live near you in Mt Clemens.The smartest thing they did was close the police dept and have Macomb County Sheriff patrol the city.


41 posted on 03/24/2024 10:19:54 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: george76
My small town tried to do this several years ago. They wanted to outsource police to a nearby town. The residents shot it down massively. At the time, our police chief was an older man who would actually do concealed carry classes for free for residents, because he strongly felt the citizens were his ultimate back-stop.

Police tend to strongly take their cues from the top down, and you really could see it daily in how officers interacted with citizens. Sadly, he has retired since then, but he was a great chief, because he really did see himself and his officers as servants of the people, and that the citizens of the town were partnered with him and his crew. Andy Griffith really did exist in this former Republic.

42 posted on 03/24/2024 11:10:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: FreedomPoster
Yes, because you have very little crime. You can not afford more. Places like this are not crime ridden city hell holes. They hand out tickets to speeders, they mediate disputes between neighbors, investigate petty theft and make sure fights do not get out of hand at the local bars. They might make one arrest a week on average.

Here are some numbers for you.

Average pay for a police officer even in small towns now days, $30 an hour. Let us assume no one gets more then that for the sake of simplicity.

That is $62,400 per officer per year without over time.

Times six officers means $374,640 just in straight time. Now add in insurance, taxes, Workman's comp and bonding. Times 1.5 is for normal employees, for police, fire and rescue it is slightly over 2 but lets go with 2.

$749,280 a year.

Now equipment and building, fuel and other such stuff. Generally double it.

That is $1,498,560 a year.

There are 1600 (rounded off for ease) in the area.

That is $936.60 per resident. Not tax payer. Resident. Just for the police. So they can find lost keys.

Most places of that size have a three officers at max. There is no full coverage because it is not needed. If you need the police outside of normal business hours you call the dispatcher (who often covers police, fire and rescue) and they will call at home who ever is needed.

43 posted on 03/24/2024 11:20:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: zeugma

City cops report to a city manager / county elected sheriffs report to the citizens. = big difference.


44 posted on 03/24/2024 11:30:57 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

No, not enough information. But I watch a lot of videos about police/citizen encounters and I see a lot of what I’d call abuse of power involved even though the officers managed to lead into coming up with enough charges to arrest a detainee with. Interestingly enough a lot of those situations involve officers who were tatted-up pretty good on their arms and looked like they worked out on steriods.


45 posted on 03/24/2024 11:31:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Sure. There are also many city councils who are less than scrupulously honest.

So, until there is more information I am in watch mode.

Both are possible.

My only comment is that is an awful lot of police officers for such a small and quiet town.

46 posted on 03/24/2024 2:29:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Yes. Well, I realize Andy and Barney went home and were on call at night and on weekends, unless there was some event in town. Amos locked himself up at night. Is that how small towns operate?

I read here on FR that Pittsburgh is no longer responding to calls at night unless your life is in danger.


47 posted on 03/24/2024 5:44:57 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I just noticed your tagline. I love it...funny, clever and probably closer to the truth than we know.


48 posted on 03/24/2024 5:52:33 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
Don't have anyone who locks himself up but aside from that pretty much.

My township is around 1,200 and we have three full time with three reserve in case something very bad should happen.

Down the road is a town of about 2500 and they have five full time with three reserve.

Occasionally you have a violent crime, an armed robbery, a rape or murder but that is something that happens maybe once a year if that. 54% of the counties in the US had no murders at all in the past year.

49 posted on 03/24/2024 6:16:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Baltimore is probably more dangerous than Afghanistan at this time.


50 posted on 03/24/2024 6:18:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: george76

I used to skydive in Ridgely many moons ago.


51 posted on 03/24/2024 6:19:50 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Maybe.

Have not been there for decades.

But a good portion of the country is just sleepy quiet places where the worst thing that happens is neighbors fighting (verbally) over who picked more then their share of the Morel patch.

52 posted on 03/24/2024 6:21:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I think it would be great to live in a small town. I learned something about small town policing. Thank you.


53 posted on 03/24/2024 7:00:05 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: HamiltonJay

I’m not crazy, I’ve just adjusted my thinking to reflect the new reality. If the politicians suspend an entire police force, what is to prevent said politicians from being dropped from a helicopter?


54 posted on 03/25/2024 8:22:11 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: nonliberal

And what would the existing police force have done to stop them from being dropped from said chopper vs the hired police force from next town over?

People are just going insane.

Its clear this suspension isn’t simply a Defund the Police nonsense... something pretty nasty has been alleged, and certainly appears to have some credibility.

Trying to spin this as some defund the police political act is not valid or relevant here...


55 posted on 03/25/2024 8:25:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Dave W
Small towns are great places to live for the most part.

You have your problems. Generally with entrenched power structures and people who have let "big frog, little pond" go to their head but you can often work around that much easier then you can in the cities.

For one thing 90% of the adult population is armed. So everyone needs to work out their problems peaceably.

Glad you like the tag line. :)

56 posted on 03/25/2024 9:31:26 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: gundog

SSS


57 posted on 03/25/2024 9:32:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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