Posted on 03/16/2024 11:05:42 AM PDT by CFW
The right to keep and bear arms is a natural right, meaning all free men and women have that right, regardless of where they are on the planet. It's part of why so many of us find other nations' gun laws so insulting. It's a repression of people's right to have weapons to defend themselves and their nation.
A repression that goes out the window in the face of invasion, it should be noted.
But that brings about the question of illegal immigrants. Do they forfeit their rights when they enter the United States illegally, or do they maintain their rights as they've not actually been convicted of a felony or anything else?
For a long time, the official line is that they don't get to have guns. Period.
Yet a federal court has decided something quite differently.
(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...
This is not the America I grew up in.
hell no. They broke the law coming here and they need a broken jaw
“This is not the America I grew up in.”
And you can thank Obama & Minions for that. One of the few times he actually spoke the truth: “We’re five days away from the fundamental transformation of the United States.”
And the rest is history. A very negative, deliberately destructive history and one we may not recover from, since it is still ongoing.
The unintended consequences of forcing a ‘transformation’... resulted in MAGA/Trump and in more Americans becoming aware of the corruption of government, the existence of the Deep State, and the Marxist agenda. Thanks, Obama.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10158165813780093
He hates Jews, yet they voted for him.
He promised to shut down coal mines, yet the United Mine Workers of America were campaigning for him on their home page.
Insanity.
So how do we distinguish between an illegal alien and a foreign invader?
Is it my imagination or are 9 out of 10 black women in positions of authority the absolute worst?
Definitely a pattern. Big Mike, Willis, this one, L. James, and on and on.
District court. It will be appealed upwardly, and hopefully quickly.
...... Under current law ... Crossing the US Border Illegally is a Felony. Being a Felon forfeits your right to own a gun. Case Closed.
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Who nominated her and who voted yeah? That’s what I’d like to know.
Illegal aliens are outside of the Constitution by legal definition.
Hell no!
However...
If we think that would stop them tapping the weapons and
ammunition the Left has been stockpiling for them, we’re
kidding ourselves.
Oh, so now the left discovers natural rights. They were apoplectic when Justice Thomas was nominated because of his strong natural rights beliefs. Only when they got nowhere with opposing him on that did they trot out that lying puttana Anita Hill.
"Gun Ban for Illegal Immigrants Ruled Unconstitutional"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Consider the following excerpt from the referenced article, allegedly from a federal judge.
“The Second Amendment protects people’s ability to own a gun even if they’ve entered the country illegally."
The HUGE constitutional problem with the misguided (politically correct?) court's interpretation of the scope of the 2nd Amendment (2A) protections is this imo. The interpretation disturbingly overlooks historical scope of 2A in the context of the 14th Amendment (14A).
More specifically, when the Bill of Rights (BoR) was ratified, the states had decided that they did not have to protect the rights expressly protected by the BoR. The states obligated only the federal government to respect the BoR, 2A protections in this example.
It wasn't until the states ratified the 14th Amendment (14A), 14A expanding personal constitutional protections for citizens from federal government infringement to the states, that the states likewise obligated themselves to respect BoR protections.
So let's take a look at key wording in 14A and another example as they pertain to scope of constitutionally enumerated personal protections.
Excerpted from 14A:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
"Section 5: The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
In other words, before 14A existed, although states recognized the natural right and necessity for citizens to protect themselves, the states could legally prohibit people from owning a gun, minimum age limit for owing a gun, also no guns for illegal aliens as examples.
In fact, the Supreme Court later emphasized that constitutionally enumerated rights apply only to citizens in post-14A ratification case of Minor v. Happersett.
Excerpted from Minor v. Happersett:
“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphases added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.
Again, depending on what federal judges actually said about 2A, some post-FDR era, institutionally indoctrinated judge unsurprisingly seems to be clueless about history of scope of BoR protections as it concerns illegal aliens, 2A in this example.
If you guessed Obama you would not be wrong. 😋
Glad I'm not the only one.
Plan point 1: Allow illegals to own and carry. Some of them go stupid with their guns. Raise hue and cry for strict gun control.
Plan point 2: Ensure Chinese-national illegal immigrants are armed, which will form the basis of a sabotage unit of the PLA, should we ever need to fight China.
If illegal aliens are allowed to own firearms, how can they obtain a license when the left insists that they are "undocumented?"
What documents will an illegal alien provide to secure a license to conceal carry?
If they succeed in obtaining a concealed carry permit, are the still "undocumented?" Can we go back to calling them illegal aliens?
-PJ
JUST SO!
Though not convicted, EVERY illegal alien in the USA is a FELON!
Felons are not permitted to own weapons!
This insanity will be the ruin of the USA!
It comes down to one thing. In reference to the 2nd Amendment, who are “the people”.
One of the DUMBEST rulings, ever.
So many dumb rulings anymore. I see a pattern here. Total incompetence.
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