Posted on 02/26/2024 11:04:07 AM PST by Red6
I just got back from Ukraine, where I was visiting some friends.
Everything we have heard about what’s happening in Ukraine is a lie.
The reality is darker, bleaker, and unequivocally hopeless. There is no such thing as Ukraine "winning" this war.
- By their estimates, they have lost over one million of their sons, fathers and husbands; an entire generation is gone.
- Even in the Southwest, where the anti-Russian sentiment is long-standing, citizens are reluctant or straight-up scared to publicly criticize Zelensky; they will go to jail.
- In every village and town, the streets, shops, and restaurants are mostly absent of men.
- The few men who remain are terrified of leaving their homes for fear of being kidnapped into conscription. Some have resorted to begging friends to break their legs to avoid service.
- Army search parties take place early in the morning, when men leave their homes to go to work. They ambush and kidnap them off the streets and within 3-4 hours they get listed in the army and taken away straight to the front lines with minimal or no training at all; it is "a death sentence."
- It's getting worse every day. Where I was staying, a dentist had just been taken by security forces on his way to work, leaving behind two small children. Every day, 3-5 dead bodies keep arriving from the front lines.
- Mothers and wives fight tooth and nail with the armed forces, beg and plead not to have their men taken away. They try bribing, which sometimes works, but most of the time they are met with physical violence and death threats.
- The territory celebrated as having been "won back" from Russia has been reduced to rubble and is uninhabitable. Regardless, there is no one left to live there and displaced families will likely never return.
- They see the way the war has been reported, at home and abroad. It's a "joke" and "propaganda." They say: “Look around: is this winning?”.
- Worse, some have been hoaxed into believing that once Ukrainians forces are exhausted, American soldiers will come in to replace them and “win the war”.
There is no ambiguity in these people. The war was for nothing - a travesty. The outcome always was, and is, clear. The people are hopeless, utterly destroyed, and living in an unending nightmare.
They are pleading for an end, any end - most likely the same "peace" that could have been achieved two years ago. In their minds, they have already lost, for their sons, fathers and husbands are gone, and their country has been destroyed. There is no "victory" that can change that.
Make no mistake, they are angry with Putin. But they are also angry with Zelensky and the West. They have lost everything, worst of all, hope and faith, and cannot comprehend why Zelenky wishes to continue the current trajectory, the one of human devastation.
I didn't witness the war; but what I saw was absolutely heart-breaking.
Shame on the people, regardless of their intentions, who have supported this war. And shame on the media for continuing to lie about it.
It’s been our circus since Obama orchestrated the Ukrainian coup back in 2014.
I agree we shouldn’t be there. But if they’re going to talk the talk we need to walk the walk.
Our actions do not match the arguments the DNC and uniparty is putting out. We’re being lied to.
A million death penalties for Putin.
This guy could testify at his tribunal.
Not a NATO press release.
Not a Biden White House press release.
Not a Ukrainian Public Relations unit submitting “news” that gets copied and pasted in Newsweek and elesewhere.
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A recitation of Putin’s crimes and condemnation.
Not my circus not my monkies. Also the things current regime is reaearching with monkeys now in the name of bs science is worse than beagle torture and insane! Go figure.
Lindsey Graham that's who. Linda is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian. I suspect are moronic deep state wants to conquer Russia and then force them to die by the millions fighting China but that is not going to happen.
The hundreds of dead Ukrainians and prisoners in Adeevka are mostly in their 40’s and 50’s. Grandfathers are being abducted off the streets and taken to the front.
NeoCons will have to get the women and children next.
Ukraine is the largest DNC money laundry in Europe.
I detested Zelensky the first time I saw him. We have no reason to be in this war in any way. What has Ukraine ever done for us? Zero! Zilch!
Whether or not everything in this post is true, we need to stop sending them weapons. Trump’s military advisor said many months ago that we sent so much to Ukraine, we can’t defend ourselves.
What a bunch of dishonest bleeping idiots in congress.
On twitter, you can see her passport stamped for Ukraine entry.
When it comes to cutting losses, there is a saying in the stock industry that “your first loss is your best loss” Hindsight suggests the deal they worked out 20 months ago ceding the two primarily Russian inhabited eastern provinces may have been their best loss. The longer this goes on with no negotiation table as a backdrop, the more Ukraine stands to lose when they ultimately throw in the towel and, just as importantly, the more treasure fueling its prosecution the US stands to lose.
31,000 say the ukes and zeepers.
I trust your observations/experience over them hands down.
So, they should surrender? Or should they continue to bleed the invaders until no longer able to do so?
You have the globalhomo liberals, Biden and the left that caused this war.
And he knew better: https://www.facebook.com/rishibagree/videos/1997-the-only-thing-that-could-provoke-a-vigorous-and-hostile-russian-response-w/1131428724346357/
And then, you have many Republicans who instead of using this war in opposition politics as Obama did with Iraq, are actually falling in line and supporting this mess, i.e. the Neocons like Graham, Nuland, McConnell...
These Republicans “pretend” to be on the side of Democracy, as they vote for most favored trade for China, they talk about human rights, as they overlook the human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia (name me one neocon that opened his mouth about Kashoggi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi), they talk about self defense and national security as they pushed for this war in Ukraine but cannot supply one single viable/realistic argument as to how NATO expansion into Ukraine was a national security argument for us. All they do is supply vapid and outdated Cold War threats, use cliche arguments, engage in name calling and give ever greater victory speeches for Ukraine as the chasm between reality and their fantasy widens.
The CIA hired and directed America’s boots there. The NYT signaled the Vietnamization of the American withdrawal from Ukraine.
Col McGregor seems to believe Russia has lost between 35-50k wounded and killed, with many returned to action, and atates Ukraine has 350k dead at the end of 2023, and 1000 per day since New Years.
Then Russia, getting their military's @$$ kicked by Americans, would have loosed the nukes, and TEOTWAWKI would have resulted.
I'm 80- already past my sell-by date, but I have kids and grandkids who I'd like to see have a life!
31, 37,000 and they need 500k called up as replacements... I’ll go with the replacement call up numbers Ukraine wants.
Russia is shelling and bombing the hell out Ukraine.
By the end of May, Ukrainian forces will be 250 miles east of the old stalemate lines.
The pace will pick up in August.
Hard liners in Russia say nothing short of occupying Kiev is sufficient.
With any such data comes one caveat: CONSIDER THE SOURCE. Both sides will lie in the blink of an eye.
Yes, to anyone with two brain cells, this is a totally rotten and wrong situation on so many levels.
this is how the deep state elite work....they will have continuous wars to take all the worthwhile able bodied men away to their deaths or injury.....
look at what we got following Nam...way too many of these draft dodging college boys and girls running the show ....we needed those 50,000 young men....we NEEDED them....
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