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I just got back from Ukraine
X (former Twitter) ^ | 01/06/2024 | Maria Mateiciuc

Posted on 02/26/2024 11:04:07 AM PST by Red6

I just got back from Ukraine, where I was visiting some friends.

Everything we have heard about what’s happening in Ukraine is a lie.

The reality is darker, bleaker, and unequivocally hopeless. There is no such thing as Ukraine "winning" this war.

- By their estimates, they have lost over one million of their sons, fathers and husbands; an entire generation is gone.

- Even in the Southwest, where the anti-Russian sentiment is long-standing, citizens are reluctant or straight-up scared to publicly criticize Zelensky; they will go to jail.

- In every village and town, the streets, shops, and restaurants are mostly absent of men.

- The few men who remain are terrified of leaving their homes for fear of being kidnapped into conscription. Some have resorted to begging friends to break their legs to avoid service.

- Army search parties take place early in the morning, when men leave their homes to go to work. They ambush and kidnap them off the streets and within 3-4 hours they get listed in the army and taken away straight to the front lines with minimal or no training at all; it is "a death sentence."

- It's getting worse every day. Where I was staying, a dentist had just been taken by security forces on his way to work, leaving behind two small children. Every day, 3-5 dead bodies keep arriving from the front lines.

- Mothers and wives fight tooth and nail with the armed forces, beg and plead not to have their men taken away. They try bribing, which sometimes works, but most of the time they are met with physical violence and death threats.

- The territory celebrated as having been "won back" from Russia has been reduced to rubble and is uninhabitable. Regardless, there is no one left to live there and displaced families will likely never return.

- They see the way the war has been reported, at home and abroad. It's a "joke" and "propaganda." They say: “Look around: is this winning?”.

- Worse, some have been hoaxed into believing that once Ukrainians forces are exhausted, American soldiers will come in to replace them and “win the war”.

There is no ambiguity in these people. The war was for nothing - a travesty. The outcome always was, and is, clear. The people are hopeless, utterly destroyed, and living in an unending nightmare.

They are pleading for an end, any end - most likely the same "peace" that could have been achieved two years ago. In their minds, they have already lost, for their sons, fathers and husbands are gone, and their country has been destroyed. There is no "victory" that can change that.

Make no mistake, they are angry with Putin. But they are also angry with Zelensky and the West. They have lost everything, worst of all, hope and faith, and cannot comprehend why Zelenky wishes to continue the current trajectory, the one of human devastation.

I didn't witness the war; but what I saw was absolutely heart-breaking.

Shame on the people, regardless of their intentions, who have supported this war. And shame on the media for continuing to lie about it.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: incelmaximus; killkillkillforpeace; russia; snekmaximus; ukraine; zelenskyy
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To: Red6

Hoaxed - yes we con - chains

Social engineering

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21 posted on 02/26/2024 11:18:02 AM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms⁸)
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To: Red6

Thank you very much for posting the truth.

Now, if FReepers who are promoting and supporting this war will wake up. I doubt they will.


22 posted on 02/26/2024 11:18:20 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Red6

Screw Lindsey Graham.


23 posted on 02/26/2024 11:18:31 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Red6

The “official” body count for Ukraine is 37,000. A terrible, terrible joke.


24 posted on 02/26/2024 11:19:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: BenLurkin
--- "Who is Maria Mateiciuc?"

I was also curious. Her Twitter feed with much to see and read was easily found: https://twitter.com/MariaMateiciuc

Among her posts was an excerpt by that jackass, Yuval Noah Harari, of which she is rightly critical. And posts from her travels. Looking through more now....

25 posted on 02/26/2024 11:20:23 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red6

Both countries will be effectively disarmed by the war’s end.


26 posted on 02/26/2024 11:20:29 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Red6
Screw Zelensky and Putin. Two scorpions in a bottle.

Zelensky, that demanding grifting little weasel thinks he has a God given right to demand the US taxpayer fork over billions every month for another go round in some ancient Eastern European blood feud that has NOTHING to do with us.

F him. And Putin too.

Let them hash it out.

27 posted on 02/26/2024 11:20:52 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Red6

“By their estimates, they have lost over one million of their sons,”

If the writer can tell such a lie, what else they said can we expect to be true.

And this is how the author describes herself:

Global citizen | World traveler | Eclectic spirit | Believer in goodness and fairytales.

Anyone who calls themself a “global citizen” says to me they have no loyalties at all. Yet idiot “conservatives” hear will believe her? Why? Only because they WANT to believe her.


28 posted on 02/26/2024 11:21:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ping


29 posted on 02/26/2024 11:23:32 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Wuli

If 37,000 only were dead they would still have lots more soldiers to draft. Anyone know how many Russians have died? Is there some combined ticker fox could put up with the daily death tolls?


30 posted on 02/26/2024 11:26:02 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Red6

bkmk


31 posted on 02/26/2024 11:28:30 AM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Red6

Hmm, have heard these same phrases time and time again. It may be true but it’s been recycled.

Annnnd, they’re mad at the West aka America. Of course, they are. The entire world is but still have their hands out begging for aid.


32 posted on 02/26/2024 11:32:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: Skywise

Boots on the ground?! NO WAY! This is not out circus, not our monkeys.

That’s just what we DON”T need.

More dead young Americans, more young Americans coming home with broken bodies and shattered minds.

NO. HELL NO!


33 posted on 02/26/2024 11:33:53 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: jmacusa
--- "Boots on the ground?! NO WAY! This is not out circus, not our monkeys."

Agreed. And yet only a couple of months ago:

Lloyd Austin Threatens to Deploy Troops if Ukraine Aid is Shut Down American Greatness, 6 December 2023

34 posted on 02/26/2024 11:37:51 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red6

Globohomo had a chance to avoid this entire thing but Boris Johnson blew up the deal.


35 posted on 02/26/2024 11:38:42 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Boardwalk

Everyone is lying and hiding the true numbers.

BUT, before Ukraines counteroffensive (they took excessivley heavy losses in that), there was some credible information that got leaked to the public: https://www.newsweek.com/2023/05/05/read-leaked-secret-intelligence-documents-ukraine-vladimir-putin-1794656.html#slideshow/2222852 (slide 2 and 3 bottom left). That was as of 1 March 2023 (~1 year into the war). So it’s old.

The massive divergence, i.e. what our media reports regards Russian casualties and what our own government believes, is huge, like a factor of 10. Furthmore, our media doesn’t even really report much about Ukrainian casualties since they are asked not to and ablige. Also, these were KIA, and you’re going to have FAR more casualties than KIA. People that get an eye blown out, lose a leg or arm... (((Finally, offensive normally is more difficult and casualty intense than defensive, and Ukraine’s huge failure of a counter offensive was very casualty intense, but you can’t really find real numbers on that even though the Russians, Ukraine and US all know, it’s just they want us to be stupid so we can be manipulated.))) That’s what you pay taxes for, so they can keep you stupid and tell you what they want you to think.


36 posted on 02/26/2024 11:42:10 AM PST by Red6
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To: Timber Rattler

“ guess that makes her a qualified political and military observer and analyst of the largest war in Europe since World War II?”
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Snake, she’s actually been over there recently. That make he more qualified than you since you’ve been spending those same tineframes slithering around Ukrainian propaganda websites and reposting Sam here.


37 posted on 02/26/2024 11:42:19 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Red6
The "peace dividend" for the US should be ending funding, stop all current and future deliveries. Cut Ukraine off 100%. AND NOT REBUILDING FUNDS, NOT IMMIGRATION, NOTHING.

It is unfortunate that we did this to them, now we need to get out of the way and let Ukraine and Russia settle their civil war without futher death and destruction.

38 posted on 02/26/2024 11:49:54 AM PST by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: Skywise

It’s about the military industrial complex and dead people for the environment. I have so many examples of democrat policies that end in death, it’s astounding.


39 posted on 02/26/2024 11:52:40 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: lucky american

You’re right on!


40 posted on 02/26/2024 11:53:57 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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