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Too small an invading force - arrogantly & bizarrely assumed Ukraine wouldn't offer much resistance, and would welcome Russia as "liberators" [parade uniforms already packed]

Wrong time to invade - middle of winter allowed Ukraine lots of hours of darkness to launch surprise ambush attacks; Russia also then got boxed-in by the legendary spring muds, a crucial delay, right in the middle of an advance, which allowed Western countries time to organize & supply Ukraine

Under-estimating Ukraine's abilities - kept forces too low (an admission confirmed by the Sept. 22 mobilization)

There's many more mistakes Russia has made & continues to make ...

good thing for Ukraine that Russia's "leader" is so stupid, that's why this war is still going, with Ukraine still controlling 5/6 of its land

1 posted on 02/24/2024 6:47:08 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Russia may be following the Chinese method in Ukriane...death by thousand cuts.


2 posted on 02/24/2024 7:00:51 AM PST by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever in November. If he loses, country is finished.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The Ukraines biggest blunder? Believing that Joe Biden, Surrender-Monkey in Chief, would actually help the Ukraine.


3 posted on 02/24/2024 7:06:09 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: canuck_conservative

It looks like Pooty has lost another A-50, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPcJT_EK9xo

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/02/23/incredibly-the-russian-air-force-has-lost-another-one-of-its-rare-a-50-radar-planes/?sh=7961d6c42ac4

Military is one thing, I hope no villagers were hit by debris falling to the ground.


5 posted on 02/24/2024 7:22:19 AM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Both sides use Decoys but Ukraine is much better at it and Russia is wasting millions of Russian Rubles shooting nothing


6 posted on 02/24/2024 7:32:22 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: canuck_conservative

What price has Ukraine paid for this proxy war? Hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded. Russia has seized additional territory since the initial invasion in 2014. No membership in NATO. Ukraine was among the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe before 2022. It is now poorer and more corrupt.

The US has borrowed hundreds of billions of dollars to fund another endless war. Zelensky wants $800 billion to rebuild Ukraine. We can’t afford an open-ended commitment to this black hole. The US is the world’s biggest debtor nation. Who profits from this war? The military industrial complex.

And now Stoltenberg says NATO has no objection with Ukraine using the F-16s to bomb inside Russia. Are we about to be drawn into a direct confrontation with Russia?

Ukraine can’t win this war. What is the exit strategy?


7 posted on 02/24/2024 7:39:08 AM PST by kabar
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The Russians will have to do pretty badly to match Westerners when it comes to losing wars (think Khabul). Have to laugh at Western elites critiquing the guys that are kicking their butts on 1/20 of their budget.


8 posted on 02/24/2024 7:44:01 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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Where's the movie? Where we win.

—In the meantime, (military objectives) It's Russia that is sitting in Ukraine and took 18% of the real estate there. Took an industrial and major port city with most of Ukraine's steel industry.

—It's Ukraine that is not in NATO (political objectives) and in fact now won't even be in the EU which was well in reach before the war.

Wars like this have no definitive end, just like Iraq had no definitive end and we're still there despite lying about leaving (political ploy for Obama's reelection and the MSM gladly played along). We are also still in Afghanistan, 23 years later.

The problem with all these grand ideas of sending more troops is it that it's not feasible. No different than us in Iraq: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/25/international/middleeast/army-chief-raises-estimate-of-gis-needed-in-postwar.html Shinseki wasn't a genius, just a political hack who was aligned with the Democrats and using the same sort of argument. Only in his case, he had to have known 100% for sure that what he's saying isn't really feasible and merely amounts to smearing the administration. Look, I don't even think George W. was a great President, but using this argument against him and Rumsfeld etc was nonsense.

Where are all these troops supposed to come from?

1. Russia needs to defend their frontier, i.e. we have been invading their space for years. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Niger, and Venezuela are all Russian aligned or formal allies where we have invaded, attacked, or staged a coup, usually under false pretenses. If Russia pulls their intel and military assets from these areas, they will easily fall to us, and that is probably our grand strategy which appears more and more likely.

From before the war: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/venezuela-maduro-russia-private-security-contractors

DW bigger view: https://www.dw.com/en/russias-wagner-group-where-is-it-active/a-66027220

2. These are long haul conflicts. You need to plan on having troops deployed in operations, reconstituting after returning, and preparing to go there again. You cannot simply surge all you forces into a fight and tell them they will return when it's over, whenever that is. Men and equipment need pulled off line and you can figure in a long fight you need about 3 times the actual forces that are in theater. Massive surges can only be sustained for a short time.

These arguments are ignorant (not enough troops). All I want is frigging sharks with laser-beams, makes about as much sense. Of course I want 1,000,000 troops all armed with laser guns and imaginary Masterchief body armor. Can I now be a genius statistician like this articles writer? Russia already guaranteed has a timeline of what units are rotating into and out of operations in Ukraine and how they balance that with operations in Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Niger, Sudan and other places along their border (Republic of Georgia, along the Baltic states...).

10 posted on 02/24/2024 8:01:32 AM PST by Red6
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Zeepers and their sources have long since past Baghdad Bob in putting out propaganda that any objective person realizes is utter nonsense.

The annexed land, land that will never be part of Ukraine again, was the only land Russia prioritized going into the war. It's 42,000 square miles of land that comprised 70-80% of Ukraine's GDP and most of the Black Sea coastline.

For the past year, the Russians have been content to annihilate the Ukrainian army. Ukraine's military and defense lines are now collapsing and the Russian military is making gains daily along the lines of contact.

Ukraine has only two options 1) Surrender, save what's left of Ukraine and agree to remain a neutral country or 2) lose a considerably more amount of territory if not everything.

12 posted on 02/24/2024 8:25:06 AM PST by Kazan
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G_d only knows who’s going to win this atrocity. The Ukes keep shooting down Russian aircraft and dropping bombs from drones with lots of video coverage, but the maps show steady progress of Russian ground forces.

We can be sure there’ll be lots of destruction, carnage and dead soldiers. The dirt and blood will mask the colors they fought for.


13 posted on 02/24/2024 8:27:56 AM PST by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS | Robotyne Armored Assault | Russia Captures Lastochkyne | New Stage

Unstoppable. Russia Captured Three Settlements Near Avdiivka. Russian Advance & Entered Ivanivske.

16 posted on 02/24/2024 8:34:20 AM PST by Kazan
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19 posted on 02/24/2024 9:19:09 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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20 posted on 02/24/2024 9:19:29 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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Russia will win through attrition, but its standing army, Air Force, and navy has been decimated. It uses equipment produced in the 80s that is obsolete and no longer in production. The biggest surprise is their navy being whittled down by a country with no navy.


23 posted on 02/24/2024 9:27:26 AM PST by DownInFlames (p)
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