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To: canuck_conservative

The Ukraines biggest blunder? Believing that Joe Biden, Surrender-Monkey in Chief, would actually help the Ukraine.


3 posted on 02/24/2024 7:06:09 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

The original invasion was not a “blunder.” It was an attempt at a “decapitation strike.”

It very nearly worked. While the West knew something was coming, it avoided a huge massing of soldiers which would be detected by NATO ISR capabilities

It had Kiev surrounded. It brought Ukraine to negotiations about implementing Minsk agreements, neutrality and its future in NATO, which would have achieved Russian goals - until Boris Johnson’s fateful trip to scupper the deal. The Russians withdrew from Kiev as a gesture (and probably extended lines) - not because Ukraine beat them.

No doubt they had plan B, which is what we are seeing now.
They knew NATO would mobilize it resources for Ukraine, and it would become a more positional and industrial-capacity war.

As such, the initial strike was a smart, calculated gamble.


9 posted on 02/24/2024 7:55:44 AM PST by PGR88
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To: wildcard_redneck
No no,

Ukraine won.

Huge victory.

Loosing 1/5 of your country, your biggest industrial area and a port city where most your steel industry is, was actually just a trick!

The counteroffensive which went no where, is actually also just a trick.

Ukraine is winning, really! Total victory.

sarc

PS: today there are only versions of the truth, and if you really believe in something strong enough, it'll make it so.

I suppose my mother died of cancer because I just didn't believe she was cured hard enough.

17 posted on 02/24/2024 8:39:19 AM PST by Red6
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