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Bad Times at Black Rock: CBS Causes Uproar After Seizing the Notes of Investigative Reporter
Jonathan Turley ^ | February 23, 2024 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 02/23/2024 8:40:08 AM PST by george76

Below is my column in The Hill on the trouble brewing at CBS over the seizure of the files of acclaimed investigative reporter Catherine Herridge. The column broke the story on the uproar over not just her being laid off but her being locked out from her files. I am now hearing from CBS sources that the network is moving toward a resolution to turn over the files after the outcry. However, the concerns over Herridge’s firing and the network’s handling of her confidential notes continues to draw fire from journalists and commentators. The union issued a statement (below) after the column that “CBS News’ decision to seize Catherine Herridge’s reporter notes and research … sets a dangerous precedent for all media professionals and threatens the very foundation of the First Amendment.”

Here is the column:

“Anyone who isn’t confused really doesn’t understand the situation.” Those words, from CBS icon Edward R. Murrow, came to mind this week after I spoke with journalists at the network.

There is trouble brewing at Black Rock, the headquarters of CBS, after the firing of Catherine Herridge, an acclaimed investigative reporter. Many of us were shocked after Herridge was included in layoffs this month, but those concerns have increased after CBS officials took the unusual step of seizing her files, computers and records, including information on privileged sources.

The position of CBS has alarmed many, including the union, as an attack on free press principles by one of the nation’s most esteemed press organizations.

I have spoken confidentially with current and former CBS employees who have stated that they could not recall the company ever taking such a step before. One former CBS journalist said that many employees “are confused why [Herridge] was laid off, as one of the correspondents who broke news regularly and did a lot of original reporting.”

That has led to concerns about the source of the pressure. He added that he had never seen a seizure of records from a departing journalist, and that the move had sent a “chilling signal” in the ranks of CBS.

A former CBS manager, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said that he had “never heard of anything like this.” He attested to the fact that, in past departures, journalists took all of their files and office contents. Indeed, the company would box up everything from cups to post-its for departing reporters. He said the holding of the material was “outrageous” and clearly endangered confidential sources.

Herridge declined to make any public comments on her departure.

CBS also did not respond to my inquiries about this.

A source within the the union, SAG-AFTRA, confirmed that it has raised this controversy with CBS and remains extremely concerned about the effect of this action on journalistic practices and source confidentiality. The union believes this is “very unusual” and goes far beyond this individual case. “It is a matter of principle,” a union spokesperson added. “It is a matter of serious concern. We are considering all of our options.”

For full disclosure, I was under contract twice with CBS as a legal analyst. I cherished my time at the network. I have also known Herridge for years in both legal and journalistic capacities.

CBS is one of the world’s premier news organizations, with a legendary history that includes figures from Murrow to Walter Cronkite to Roger Mudd. That is why the hiring of Herridge was so welcomed by many of us. The network was at risk of becoming part of the journalistic herd, an echo-chamber for Democratic and liberal narratives. It had been mired in third place for ages, and it was moving in the wrong direction by alienating half of the country.

Herridge had been a celebrated investigative reporter at Fox News. An old-school investigative journalist, she is viewed as a hard-driving, middle-of-the-road reporter cut from the same cloth as the network’s legendary figures.

The timing of Herridge’s termination immediately raised suspicions in Washington. She was pursuing stories that were unwelcomed by the Biden White House and many Democratic powerhouses, including the Hur report on Joe Biden’s diminished mental capacity, the Biden corruption scandal and the Hunter Biden laptop. She continued to pursue these stories despite reports of pushback from CBS executives, including CBS News President Ingrid Ciprian-Matthews.

Given the other layoffs and declining revenues, the inclusion of Herridge was defended by the network as a painful but necessary measure. But then something strange happened. The network grabbed Herridge’s notes and files and informed her that it would decide what, if anything, would be turned over to her. The files likely contain confidential material from both her stints at Fox and CBS. Those records, it suggests, are presumptively the property of CBS News.

For many of us who have worked in the media for decades, this action is nothing short of shocking. Journalists are generally allowed to leave with their files. Under the standard contract, including the one at CBS, journalists agree that they will make files available to the network if needed in future litigation. That presupposes that they will retain control of their files. Such files are crucial for reporters, who use past contacts and work in pursuing new stories with other outlets or who cap their careers with personal memoirs.

The heavy-handed approach to the files left many wondering if it was the result of the past reported tension over stories.

Regardless of motive, the company is dead wrong.

These files may contain sources who were given confidentiality by Herridge. The company is suggesting that the privilege of confidentiality (and the material) rest ultimately with CBS. As a threshold matter, that cannot be the case with regard to files that were generated during Herridge’s long stint with Fox News. Yet CBS appears to be retaining those files, too.

When sources accept confidentiality assurances, it is an understanding that rests with the reporter. It is a matter of trust that can take a long time to establish on a personal level between a reporter and a source.

It is certainly understood that the network stands behind that pledge. However, most sources understand that their identity and information will be kept protected by the reporter and only disclosed to a select group of editors or colleagues when necessary. It is the reporter who implicitly promises to go to jail to protect confidentiality — and many have done so. Such agreements are less likely to occur if sources are told that any number of unnamed individuals, including non-journalists, could have access or custody of these files.

When “Deep Throat” agreed to disclose his identity to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, he was assured that they would protect it until his death. He would not have been so inclined if he had been told that this was a type of privilege by committee with potential disclosures to corporate, legal and HR personnel. Reporters like Herridge have long served as the primary defenders of privileged sources. Indeed, Herridge is still in court defending confidentiality over a series of stories at Fox News in 2017, even at the risk of being held in contempt.

CBS is suggesting that it will allow unnamed individuals to rifle through Herridge’s files to determine what will remain with the network and what will be returned to the reporter. That could fundamentally alter how reporters operate and how willing sources are to trust assurances that they will be protected.

In criminal cases involving privileged information, the government has an elaborate “filter team” system to wall off access to information under review. In the court system, judges use in camera and ex parte reviews to protect such information. Ironically, the media itself seems to take a more ad hoc approach. Indeed, CBS seems to have adopted a “Trust us, we’re the media” approach. However, that could expose these files to the access of unnamed lawyers, tech staff and others who are conducting this inventory and analysis.

CBS should reconsider this move before it does real harm to itself or its reporters. Ironically, it should not want to be the custodian of such records, which can expose the company to production demands in litigation, such as the ongoing fight over the confidentiality of the Fox sources. To store such documents is to invite a storm of subpoenas.

CBS could be forcing a showdown with the union, which must protect not only this journalist but all journalists seeking to maintain control and confidentiality of their files.

The union may have no choice but to go to court to force CBS to protect journalistic values, including a demand for an injunction to force the company to secure these files and bar review until a court has had a chance to consider these questions of confidential and proprietary claims to the files.

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CBS itself will have to look into that mirror and answer some questions of what happened to the confidential records of Catherine Herridge.


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To: george76

Secretary to CBS News President Ingrid Ciprian-Matthews to her boss: “Ms. Ciprian-Matthews, there’s a Mister Obama on line 3...shall I ask him to hold?”


41 posted on 02/23/2024 10:04:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: lucky american

Hopefully, she made backups


42 posted on 02/23/2024 10:05:39 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
I'm saying so what to this not because I do not think it's a big deal nor put it past those clymers to lay off 800 people just to make it look half legitimate what they did rather than simply fire Herridge and take her stuff. I'm saying so what because CBS will get away with it and pay no price whatsoever. They'll still maintain their same place as before as a big media company, still put the pretentious and holier than thou2 60 Minutes on 7 p.m. this Sunday night and have the same pretentious clymers watch it and quote from it afterwards, and they'll still maintain how they're all about journalistic integrity. They didn't change anything after Mr. Fake But Accurate ran his documents scam about Bush, didn't change anything after we all learned that Charlie Rose was having interns deliver materials to his apartment so he could harass them in his underwear without leaving home, and they're not going to change anything now.
43 posted on 02/23/2024 10:16:53 AM PST by Dahoser (I finally figured out what to call him: Fakephonyfraudident Biden.)
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To: george76

if she was an investigative reporter, and even HALF as smart as they claim, she surely had a backup somewhere safe.

Lets see if F-troop raids her house now.


44 posted on 02/23/2024 10:36:35 AM PST by DesertRhino (16 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: george76

It would be interesting to go back into the grooveyard of forgotten hits, and review some of the over-the-top things that were said about Bernstein and Woodward, and about the publication of the Pentagon Papers, and how anyone who would go after the Courageous Journalists who’s Work to Protect Our Nation was Protected by the Saaacred Fiiirst Aammendment to the Cooonnnsstituutionn, and was Necessary to Protect Us All From Tyranny!


45 posted on 02/23/2024 10:42:26 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That was a huge theme in post WWII movies. The war in the Pacific was flat out racist and hate-filled to a degree Europe never imagined. The Japanese were still a fanatic medieval monarchy and took things to a level of brutality and cruelty unimaginable in the ETO. Beheadings of prisoners, rape, murder, torture, etc. In Nanking the German Nazi Ambassador was sickened by what he was seeing. That’s right, even actual nazis were shocked by them.

When we hit islands the common lingo was that the island was infested with vermin, monkeys, lice, etc.... and the battles were fought to the last Jap with maybe 10 or 15 survivors standing there shell shocked. And we only took them alive for intel value. Guys sent home ashtrays made out of Jap skulls, gold teeth, you name it. They our men watched as Japs even committed suicide to get at them.
That was the most bitter war we have ever fought when it come to outright hate.

So after the war we had quite a pickle on how to turn it all off. We wanted to have a cooperative Japan and the USSR was looming.
Right about then you see Hollywood churn out a raft of “Japanese are actually kinda nice now” kind of films.
Bad Day at Black Rock, Teahouse of the August moon, Bridges of Toko Ri and many others.

BTW, interesting aside about Bad Day at Black Rock. Lee Marvin was the leading bully in the film. In WWII he was a Marine PFC and was wounded on Saipan.


46 posted on 02/23/2024 11:02:17 AM PST by DesertRhino (16 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: DesertRhino

“So after the war we had quite a pickle on how to turn it all off. We wanted to have a cooperative Japan and the USSR was looming.”

Interesting take on how to “turn it all off.” That definitely was a huge quandary.

I’ve got a bit of a personal parallel. My dad’s family immigrated from Germany in 1927 (dad was three), just 9 years after the WW 1 Armistice (about the same amount of time that “Bad Day at Black Rock” took place after WW 2). The hatred toward Germans because of the ferocity of long drawn-out vicious trench warfare, the new use of machine guns, the use of gas against troops, etc was close to the hatred of the Japanese. It was tough living in The Bronx nine years after the close of WW 1. On the plus side, my dad learned some good street fighting skills and went on to box in the Marine Corps.


47 posted on 02/23/2024 11:13:18 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Sanders believed the party line that Project Mockingbird no longer existed.

Some lessons can only be learned the hard way.


48 posted on 02/23/2024 11:22:17 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: george76

The files were then given by CBS to the FBI to fulfill a subpoena.


49 posted on 02/23/2024 11:39:30 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, the WWI propaganda really got some serious German hate going in that era.
Hamburger became Salisbury Steak and Liberty Sandwiches. Sauerkraut was liberty cabbage. People killed dachshunds. German Shepherds were suddenly “police dogs”. The list was long. I know of one place in Fort Madison Iowa, the German-American bank building is still there. In the stone on top, “German” is chiseled away.

My Grandma had a German accent and left New York when she married grandpa who was a WWI sailor. He took her down to East Texas, heart of KKK thinking in the early 20s. She had a rough adjustment too. A German accented Catholic woman in the heart of east Texas in the 20s.


50 posted on 02/23/2024 11:48:12 AM PST by DesertRhino (16 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: DoodleBob

I had previously wondered whether she was the only one whose papers were confiscated, but Turley says here that this is NOT SOP, but is unheard of otherwise.


51 posted on 02/23/2024 1:05:39 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Liz

Herridge didn’t keep a backup of her own, refreshed periodically, and another dead-lady copy somewhere else?


52 posted on 02/23/2024 3:20:08 PM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: OKSooner

?


53 posted on 02/23/2024 3:27:19 PM PST by Liz (Political correctness is tyranny with manners. Charlton Heston.)
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To: Dahoser

This may be a brilliant move by CBS.

My first thought was no source will talk to CBS. My second was that no investigative reporters will work there.

However, if CBS doesn’t want info or reporting, this saves them time and trouble. They don’t have to screen reporters or sources. Deep Throat can still go to them and be secure. Dan Rather’s kids can work there. People that want to hear CBS type news can go there and not have to worry about icky stories.


54 posted on 02/23/2024 4:03:24 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: george76

They’re looking for a way to put her in jail.


55 posted on 02/23/2024 5:30:01 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: george76

She isn’t a stupid person. What did she think would happen if she decided to report news truthfully at CBS?


56 posted on 02/23/2024 6:10:11 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: jeffc

They went after Daniel Ellsberg for the Pentagon Papers. This is the same sort of alphabet agency tyranny the CIA is known for.


57 posted on 02/24/2024 3:20:06 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: george76

Walter Cronkite cost us the Vietnam war. His pronouncement that, because of the Tet Offensive (which WE WON!!!!!) America could no longer win the war, and any further attempts to win would be useless, emboldened the anti-war efforts in our country into surrendering to the communists.

From that point onwards we just spent priceless American blood in a futile attempt to enrich the defense contractors, while not winning a damned thing.

The blood of so many American soldiers rides on his shoulders...I despise that man, as I despise Hanoi Jane Fonda and so many others.


58 posted on 02/24/2024 3:40:04 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: amnestynone

Because Buckhead DESTROYED that slimy goon forever in the eyes of legitimate followers of the media!


59 posted on 02/24/2024 3:41:39 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: george76

So I’d guess...

Whomever handles CBS from the IC community pressured them to seize Catherine’s records so they could find and disappear her sources.

Catherine Herridge is no rookie. Wonder what surprises she left for them?


60 posted on 02/24/2024 3:42:45 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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