Posted on 02/17/2024 8:26:34 AM PST by hardspunned
In 1943, as the tide of war turned against the Third Reich, the German high command opted for a desperate strategy on the Eastern Front. Outnumbered and outgunned by the Red Army, the Germans pinned their hopes on a mobile, aggressive defense to stop a relentless series of Soviet offensives in Ukraine and southern Russia.
As today’s Ukraine fights over many of the same battlefields of 1943, it has chosen a strategy that echoes the German approach from 80 years ago. After the failure of its much-anticipated summer counteroffensive, and running low on ammunition and stamina to fight off continual Russian attacks, Ukrainian commanders talk of switching to an “active defense.” It hopes to block Russian advances while looking for opportunities to counterpunch and regain ground.
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What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?
Ukraine is using a Nazi strategy makes perfect sense to me.
If Ukraine wins they’ll hit up US taxpayers to ‘rebuild’ their country... More kickbacks to white liberal ‘elites’ in DC. So, it’ll pass.
Can we really afford decades of giving to one of the most corrupt countries in the world?
“What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?”
They’ve been quite clear. They will complete the liberation and incorporation of the Russian speaking areas of what was once Ukraine, and then they will set up a buffer zone to keep Russia safe from Neocon missiles.
One problem they have is the longer and longer range missiles that the Neocons send them. If they keep doing this, then there cannot be any more Ukraine and it will be divided up among the neighboring countries.
It didn’t have to end this way, but the Neocons didn’t seem able to actually TALK with the Russians about their concerns, so now the time for talk has ended, at least as far as Russia is concerned.
If Ukraine wins they’ll have plenty of income from Black Sea natural gas in their territorial waters. They will have a huge market share when Europe wants nothing to do with Russia anymore.
“What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?”
Accordant to analyst Peter Zeihan the Russin strategy is to retake the borders of the old Soviet Union which means they only have to defend about eighth hundred miles of access points, as opposed to eight thousand miles. Ukraine is only on the way to those access points, which are in Poland, and a host of NATO countries. The Russians have been at war for all but three years since Putin took over. The US strategy has been to keep Ukraine from losing, but not allowing them to win a victory that might precipitate Russian’s collapse. The US wants Russia as a counterpoint to the Chinese. If Russia loses then China will likely take all of the territory they can before Russia reconstitutes into a viable entity again. It sucks to be a pawn in someone else’s game.
The former Soviet countries couldn’t wait to join NATO as they knew what it felt like to be under Russian rule, and they didn’t like it one bit.
They don’t want to surrender
They’re just too effective at destroying Russian assets
Technically Russia’s invasion of Ukraine means that they too are adopting a failed Nazi strategy, the 1939 one that seeks to overrun sovereign countries.
“As in 1943, any defensive line will be totally mauled be Russian artillery. For pity’s sake, let the Ukes negotiate.”
They actually had good defensive lines, with Avdiivka being the best of them, and likely they COULD have held Russia back, but they decided to shoot their wad in offensive operations, and so now they’re pretty much out of weapons and the Neocons are still trying to figure out how to ramp up production (lesson for the years: If you decide to start a land war with Russia, it’s best to first find out if you can produce weapons).
Whoever believed the Biden/Nuland/Blinken BS that some how they were one more paycheck away from driving into Moscow should feel embarassed. Credit for putting up a fight. This nonsense sould have never happened.
“Retreat? Hell!! We’re just attacking in another direction.”
Major General Oliver P. Smith, CG of the 1st Marine Division
So how many former Soviet countries does Russia now possess? The Crimea?
I ask because I have not seen this massive onslaught against former Soviet countries. I have seen plenty try to join NATO, however.
I am, frankly, at a loss. I believe NATO was dead when East Germany was admitted. NATO is useless against China. Russia was selling energy to a Europe hungry for it, and at prices that America was largely dictating. NATO seemed to want an end to peaceful commerce.
That is how I see it, anyway.
Why aren't they paying for their own damn war then? The last chunk of money the US gave these folks was MORE money than we spend supporting the US Marines FOR A YEAR.
Marines for a year? Yeah. That includes salaries, training, weapons, trips, uniforms, buildings, recruiting, food, etc etc etc.
We're also paying the pensions and salaries of many in Ukraine.
How about a little transparency on how our money is being spent? Is that asking too much from one of the most corrupt countries in the world?
100% Of Avdiivka Captured | New Zaporizhzhia Offensive? | Pokrovsk or Konstantynivka?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWD4nkf3_4A&ab_channel=WeebUnion
LOL!
This is a perfect example of NATO talking the Ukes out on a limb then sawing the limb off by not being able to deliver the moon as was promised. We both knew the BS line we were fed about the Russian Bear being paper tiger was a lie two years ago. Apparently, the rainbow warriors in the pentagon believed it. These idiots never thought through the contingency that the Russians wouldn’t immediately fold and that this might evolve into a modern war of attrition. No 155mm, no air defense missiles (the West is out). The U.S. has doubled its production of 155 in two years. We now produce 28,000 per month. Z, at a minimum, wants 6000 a DAY! It’s the same with air defense missiles. A Uke defensive line will deal with horrific amounts of drone sighted artillery and an uncontested aerial bombing campaign with precision equipped 500, 1000 and 1500 kg ordinance. Russia has millions of these old, now precision, Cold War bombs. We can’t buy, beg, borrow or steal Patriot missiles or counter battery 155mm munitions.
I believe we already have some of the “rebuild” funds in place. I’ll go googling...
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