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To: hardspunned

What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?


2 posted on 02/17/2024 8:30:46 AM PST by DavidThomas
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To: DavidThomas

“What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?”

They’ve been quite clear. They will complete the liberation and incorporation of the Russian speaking areas of what was once Ukraine, and then they will set up a buffer zone to keep Russia safe from Neocon missiles.

One problem they have is the longer and longer range missiles that the Neocons send them. If they keep doing this, then there cannot be any more Ukraine and it will be divided up among the neighboring countries.

It didn’t have to end this way, but the Neocons didn’t seem able to actually TALK with the Russians about their concerns, so now the time for talk has ended, at least as far as Russia is concerned.


5 posted on 02/17/2024 8:39:57 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: DavidThomas

“What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?”

Accordant to analyst Peter Zeihan the Russin strategy is to retake the borders of the old Soviet Union which means they only have to defend about eighth hundred miles of access points, as opposed to eight thousand miles. Ukraine is only on the way to those access points, which are in Poland, and a host of NATO countries. The Russians have been at war for all but three years since Putin took over. The US strategy has been to keep Ukraine from losing, but not allowing them to win a victory that might precipitate Russian’s collapse. The US wants Russia as a counterpoint to the Chinese. If Russia loses then China will likely take all of the territory they can before Russia reconstitutes into a viable entity again. It sucks to be a pawn in someone else’s game.

The former Soviet countries couldn’t wait to join NATO as they knew what it felt like to be under Russian rule, and they didn’t like it one bit.


7 posted on 02/17/2024 8:42:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: DavidThomas

What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Russia’s goal is to steal back half of Europe - Stalin style.


22 posted on 02/17/2024 9:13:33 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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I believe that Putin explained it reasonably well in Carlson’s interview. Take Putin’s honesty with however much salt you need, as long as it’s not Polonium.

His explanation seemed to be that Russia had a completely open border with Ukraine - no passports, no customs, nothing. I never hear anything about where energy from Ukraine’s nuclear power plants went. There was large trade between the two. This would obviously change with a NATO Ukraine, especially since NATO has devolved into a simply anti-Russia alliance.

Putin’s LOOONG history lesson seemed to have a single point - the borders of present-day Ukraine mean NOTHING to him.

My take is that Russia will chop present-day Ukraine up. Ukraine will never join NATO, or there won’t be a big enough part to want. Hopefully, America’s Democrats and their alphabet agencies will have to pull out. Zelensky will retire to Switzerland in luxury.

My concern is for the nuclear industry of the former Ukraine. It would be nice for the Russians to pay for the maintenance of Chernobyl if they do not own it. I would prefer to see the other reactors deactivated and it would be nice if Russia paid for the continued storage of waste, if they don’t own the reactors out-right.


39 posted on 02/17/2024 9:28:21 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: DavidThomas

What is the Russian goal now?
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You ask now? You should have listened to Vlads speech on day one, very clear and concise. He will complete his three mentioned goals.

Of course, Western media never published his speech, …..


112 posted on 02/17/2024 4:26:45 PM PST by delta7
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