Conservative group tells judge it has no evidence to back its claims of Georgia ballot stuffing

MSN ^ | 14th February 2024 | RUSS BYNUM

[Ennis85]

A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn't have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.

Texas-based True the Vote filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in 2021, including one in which it said it had obtained “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” during the November 2020 election and a January 2021 runoff.

A Fulton County Superior Court judge in Atlanta signed an order last year requiring True the Vote to provide evidence it had collected, including the names of people who were sources of information, to state elections officials who were frustrated by the group's refusal to share evidence with investigators. In their written response, attorneys for True the Vote said the group had no names or other documentary evidence to share.

“Once again, True the Vote has proven itself untrustworthy and unable to provide a shred of evidence for a single one of their fairy-tale allegations," Raffensperger spokesman Mike Hassinger said Wednesday. "Like all the lies about Georgia’s 2020 election, their fabricated claims of ballot harvesting have been repeatedly debunked.”

True the Vote’s assertions were relied upon heavily for “2000 Mules,” a widely debunked film by conservative pundit and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza. A State Election Board investigation found that surveillance camera footage that the film claimed showed ballot stuffing actually showed people submitting ballots for themselves and family members who lived with them, which is allowed under Georgia law.

The election board subpoenaed True the Vote to provide evidence that would assist it in investigating the group's ballot trafficking allegations.

True the Vote's complaint said its investigators "spoke with several individuals regarding personal knowledge, methods,

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Are you confusing this Georgia case with: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/31/true-the-vote-leaders-jailed/ ?

[rlmorel]

Hahahahahahahaha! Let me guess...:)

I tried to engage in rational discourse once with that person, like the one on this thread, and realized it was a total waste of time. One way communication.

The kind you get from dedicated Leftists. I think the key to spotting them is that they practice projection with the best of the Leftists.

Because, deep down (or not so deep down) it is what they are.

[rlmorel]

By the way, nice to hear from you! I am heading down your way next month, just passing through...:). Hope all is well.

[Eagles6]

No, I was talking about the Konnech civil case.

Just sounds like they were protecting sources in GA, too.

[Golden Eagle]

In other words, True The Vote wasn't ready to present its evidence, or didn't trust Ratburger to act properly, or feared retaliation.

Bottom line, every court case alleging fraud, or illegal voting actions, by Trump supporters, has lost. Those who claimed such things, have lost every defamation trial against them. There is not one legal ruling to hang a single hat on, unfortunately, except tiny little individuals that happen every election.

Consequently, over the last 3 years, I’ve gone from being confident the election was stolen, and a court case somewhere would eventually be won, to now wondering if it actually was stolen, or if it was, are the the people on our side to ignorant to do anything about it. The results speak for themselves, and I’m a results person, not a bellyacher or whiner. You either win, or you lose. You do not lose, then spend 3 years claiming you won. Either fix it, or prepare to lose again.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

They court system is owned by Soros. You can believe nothing the court system says. You are aware of the lawfare being conducted against Trump, right?

Did you ever see 2000 mules?

The DOJ used the same kind of cell phone evidence to put hundreds of January 6th "insurrectionists" in prison.

If it's good enough for the DOJ...

[kiryandil]

Rightwing Conspiratr1, open and notorious FR vote fraud denier.

[kiryandil]

...who doesn’t even know what a GPS coordinate is.

How unsurprising...

[kiryandil]

That one isn’t here to examine evidence, he’s here to defend the Democrat view of the world.

[joesbucks]

The key premise of 2000 Mules is true the votes info which ttv can’t provide or prove. It all collapses like a house of cards.

[kiryandil]

I count four notorious left-wing trolls on this thread...

[kiryandil]

The key premise of 2000 Mules is true the votes info which ttv can’t provide or prove. It all collapses like a house of cards.

Your key premise is that people like Fani Willis aren't corrupt.

[Roadrunner383]

True The Vote wasn’t asserting 1st Amendment issues. Their attorney stood up in court and said TTV had no evidence of voter fraud.

Part of it could have been to avoid outing confidential informants (a wise move given Biden’s DOJ). But TTV has spent years talking proof of ballot fraud, and they didn’t submit a single piece of evidence, not one scrap of paper, not a single picture of a fraudulent ballot, not a single dadgum thing.

Push came to shove, and TTV had nothing.

[kiryandil]

You missed Fani Willis's performance with Brian Amero in January 2021.

There is NO evidence that our corrupt judiciary will accept to question the rigged "elections".

[Bikkuri]

They stand out like 60 foot tall neon signs in 80’s Miami...

[Bikkuri]

At least carry a knife, and don’t go outside after dark (if you are coming to Honolulu)..

BTW, besides the locals, there are also a crapload of wetbacks that have been coming here in the last couple(+) months.

[Titus-Maximus]

Mail-In Ballot Fraud Study Finds Trump ‘Almost Certainly’ Won in 2020 https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/mail-in-ballot-fraud-study-finds-trump-almost-certainly-won-in-2020-post-5583575?utm_source=andshare

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I am going to ask you again. Do you have a single shred of curiosity about the mathematical impossibility of Joe Biden's 2020 "victory" and the five swing states that simultaneously stopped counting on election night with Trump winning by a large margin, only to come back the next morning with FJB winning by a large margin?

Are you even the slightest bit suspicious?

And if you are, then you appear to be fine with stolen elections because the are "in the past."

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Someone who thinks he’s bright, but after having some interaction with him, realized he doesn’t know squat.

A textbook example of the Dunning-Krueger effect.

[Dr. Franklin]

Bottom line, every court case alleging fraud, or illegal voting actions, by Trump supporters, has lost. Those who claimed such things, have lost every defamation trial against them. There is not one legal ruling to hang a single hat on, unfortunately, except tiny little individuals that happen every election.

Court cases were lost on a variety of procedural dodges such as ripeness, latches, standing, and mootness, etc. The WI Supreme Court found that the 2020 Election was not conducted legally, but did not provide for a remedy. There is still a case pending in GA about thousands of missing ballot images which keeps getting delayed. Justice delayed is justice denied. It's not surprising that Ratburger wants to know who's leaking. The defamation cases are on appeal. It's harder to choose the appellate judges than it is to choose the right trial court to get a favorable judge.

Consequently, over the last 3 years, I’ve gone from being confident the election was stolen, and a court case somewhere would eventually be won, to now wondering if it actually was stolen, or if it was, are the the people on our side to ignorant to do anything about it. The results speak for themselves, and I’m a results person, not a bellyacher or whiner. You either win, or you lose. You do not lose, then spend 3 years claiming you won. Either fix it, or prepare to lose again.

You doubt the election was stolen because the courts would do nothing to remedy the fraud? I think Trump erred in not taking more aggressive action like Flynn, Powell and Patrick Byrne advocated. Trump is a lawyer-up-and-litigate type, not coup artist like Pinochet or Pilsudski. If we wanted results that was a big hammer to use. A large part of Trump's problem was and is the RINOs who wanted him out of office. Trump still hasn't gone after them with the hammer and tongs. Assuming Trump gets sworn in to office as POTUS again, he needs to address all of the traitorous RINOs, because they are happy to lose as long as they retain their power in the party. They are the ones who don't want to win, and haven't addressed the voting fraud issues, because the present system benefits them.