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To: Dr. Franklin
In other words, True The Vote wasn't ready to present its evidence, or didn't trust Ratburger to act properly, or feared retaliation.

Bottom line, every court case alleging fraud, or illegal voting actions, by Trump supporters, has lost. Those who claimed such things, have lost every defamation trial against them. There is not one legal ruling to hang a single hat on, unfortunately, except tiny little individuals that happen every election.

Consequently, over the last 3 years, I’ve gone from being confident the election was stolen, and a court case somewhere would eventually be won, to now wondering if it actually was stolen, or if it was, are the the people on our side to ignorant to do anything about it. The results speak for themselves, and I’m a results person, not a bellyacher or whiner. You either win, or you lose. You do not lose, then spend 3 years claiming you won. Either fix it, or prepare to lose again.

65 posted on 02/14/2024 7:38:28 PM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled. )
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To: Golden Eagle
Bottom line, every court case alleging fraud, or illegal voting actions, by Trump supporters, has lost. Those who claimed such things, have lost every defamation trial against them. There is not one legal ruling to hang a single hat on, unfortunately, except tiny little individuals that happen every election.

Court cases were lost on a variety of procedural dodges such as ripeness, latches, standing, and mootness, etc. The WI Supreme Court found that the 2020 Election was not conducted legally, but did not provide for a remedy. There is still a case pending in GA about thousands of missing ballot images which keeps getting delayed. Justice delayed is justice denied. It's not surprising that Ratburger wants to know who's leaking. The defamation cases are on appeal. It's harder to choose the appellate judges than it is to choose the right trial court to get a favorable judge.

Consequently, over the last 3 years, I’ve gone from being confident the election was stolen, and a court case somewhere would eventually be won, to now wondering if it actually was stolen, or if it was, are the the people on our side to ignorant to do anything about it. The results speak for themselves, and I’m a results person, not a bellyacher or whiner. You either win, or you lose. You do not lose, then spend 3 years claiming you won. Either fix it, or prepare to lose again.

You doubt the election was stolen because the courts would do nothing to remedy the fraud? I think Trump erred in not taking more aggressive action like Flynn, Powell and Patrick Byrne advocated. Trump is a lawyer-up-and-litigate type, not coup artist like Pinochet or Pilsudski. If we wanted results that was a big hammer to use. A large part of Trump's problem was and is the RINOs who wanted him out of office. Trump still hasn't gone after them with the hammer and tongs. Assuming Trump gets sworn in to office as POTUS again, he needs to address all of the traitorous RINOs, because they are happy to lose as long as they retain their power in the party. They are the ones who don't want to win, and haven't addressed the voting fraud issues, because the present system benefits them.
80 posted on 02/14/2024 8:11:24 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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