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To: Kazan

There is SOMETHING behind this Ukraine business that we don’t know about.
From the 2019 impeachment, to the Vindman brothers, to a provision that the next president couldn’t pull us out of NATO, to all the politicians taking pictures with the Olive God Zelensky, to the flag pins, to the flag draped across the dais in the House chamber, to the hair-on-fire reactions to some funding being eliminated. Now an impeachment trigger to FUNDING.

Nothing is this important.

But SOMETHING is REALLY important to the Ruling Oligarchy.

Something that we can’t know about, but we just have to keep paying for. And it happened during the Obama years. Something’s definitely up.


3 posted on 02/12/2024 10:18:30 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Ownership of Ukraine’s and Russia’s mineral wealth by the oligarchs. Ownership of the world

Of course, they will not tell you this.


14 posted on 02/12/2024 10:26:04 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: cotton1706

It’s all fake


19 posted on 02/12/2024 10:27:50 AM PST by Fledermaus (Is it me, or all of a sudden have the buried trolls come out on FR like cicadas? It's all noise.)
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To: cotton1706
Democrats articulated a novel theory of impeachment, based on Trump’s refusal to spend money from the USAI Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.

As you suggest, there is another purpose being served by sending this money "to Ukraine." The desperate fervor and convoluted claims about its importance and their illegal attempt to bind, not just a future President, but a future Congress, makes this clear.

The question is who is getting paid off as a result of these promised Ukraine funds, and why. It makes me wonder if the mystery benefifiaries incude Red China or Red Chinese assets.

30 posted on 02/12/2024 10:33:21 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: cotton1706

You wouldn’t have to pull out of NATO...you simply pull billets and re-base them along the US border. Leave the German-based units simply as 1-man operations for every 100 positions.

Having been in a military unit (or two) in my past...that strategy has been used a number of times to trim certain units..to fill other units.


31 posted on 02/12/2024 10:35:13 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: cotton1706

The end game is boots on the ground for the US. Ukraine cannot sustain , they will run out of troops before they run out of weapons. No matter how much we send. The MIC is pumped and ready. Theres lots more moneeeeey to be made. If these guys will send unlimited funds to Ukraine they will gladly send our sons and daughters.


32 posted on 02/12/2024 10:35:41 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: cotton1706

Agreed!!


43 posted on 02/12/2024 10:50:39 AM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: cotton1706
"But SOMETHING is REALLY important to the Ruling Oligarchy.

Something that we can’t know about, but we just have to keep paying for. And it happened during the Obama years. Something’s definitely up."

William Burns making a personal visit last year to me had the effect of raising a red flag.

45 posted on 02/12/2024 10:51:24 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: cotton1706

Agree.

Ukraine was an economic gem and big corporations were setting up there. They (economic interests) wanted EU and NATO membership. Also, as Ukraine grew in importance and became an EU member, we wanted to ensure they are in NATO since that is how we influence and have some say in Europe. NATO expansion was importance to us.

However, the tenacity by which some in Congress support Ukraine has to be motivated by something else.

Screw all the moral BS McConnell spews as a reason. This is the same guy that voted for most favored trade status for the PRC (mainland China). An oppressive, single party communist regime with one of the worst human rights records imaginable. These folks will back Saudi Arabia, a human rights disaster and kingdom, Jordan, etc etc etc. This notion that they give a damn about democracy, sovereignty and human rights is outright insulting to ones intelligence.


53 posted on 02/12/2024 11:06:28 AM PST by Red6
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To: cotton1706
It's no ordinary evil. The Ukraine is more than a money laundering/child trafficking/organ harvesting/US biowarfare labs hub. It seems to have much greater imortance as if it is the Deep State's Pentagon. But wait, there's more!

There's a book published in 1997 which says that it's a 'keystone' to National Security for Europe.

Keystone in the Arch: Ukraine in the Emerging Security Environment of Central and Eastern Europe

Sherman W. Garnett

The appearance of an independent Ukraine is one of the most dramatic aspects of the new political geography of Europe. This book examines the importance of an independent and stable Ukraine for the future stability of Europe.

Published March 01, 1997

by Washington, DC: Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, 1997

https://carnegieendowment.org/1997/03/01/keystone-in-arch-ukraine-in-emerging-security-environment-of-central-and-eastern-europe-pub-195

I think Europe's 'stability' is code for the successful creation of the one world government the hive known as UN/NATO/WEF/WHO etc (all one organization with different storefronts) and it's lethal desire to destroy nations and rule over the remains (slaves). So their aspirations to rule the world are thwarted by Russia - they need Putin taken out of the way for their plans for world dominion to work. Note how the book is by the 'Carnegie Endowment for International Peace'. It's will be VERY peaceful if 'One World' overlords rule the world and finally 'break' slaves.

Beyond that, the Ukraine seems to have housed some serious nest of evil even before Hitler rose to power, with some saying the Nazi's based some of their ideology on 'practices' they witnessed in the Ukraine. In one anecdote, when Germany was invading the region they found such gore they had it documented so they would not be blamed for it. The Ukraine is still home to Banderas' Nazi sympathizers (Banderites). There are national celebrations for Nazism. When some in America objected to Biden's 'need' to fund the corrupt/evil ruling powers in the Ukraine by pointing to the Azov Nazi's, the Ukraine integrated that Nazi group into their own national gaurd. See? Nazi's 'disappeared' and somehow the Ukrainian National Guard received in influx of recruits.


57 posted on 02/12/2024 11:10:08 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: cotton1706

“But SOMETHING is REALLY important to the Ruling Oligarchy.”

This^^^.

Money? Power? Girls? Keeping buried secrets buried?

Nothing else really matters to them.


59 posted on 02/12/2024 11:19:49 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: cotton1706

Yep....they are hiding something of great importance. Evil to be sure.


78 posted on 02/12/2024 1:10:14 PM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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To: cotton1706

Trafficking girls for porn and even activities like in the movie Hostel. And a bio weapons lab. And money laundering


80 posted on 02/12/2024 1:22:33 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: cotton1706
SOMETHING is REALLY important to the Ruling Oligarchy.

Corruption retirement funding is the bond that reaches across the aisle. "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" is still true all these years later - just with the survival of our nation at stake.

86 posted on 02/12/2024 5:31:58 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (Compare Trump never going back on his word to someone's 'word as a Biden'.)
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