Posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:19 AM PST by marshmallow
In his two-hour-long interview with Tucker Carlson, the Russian president listed Moscow’s conditions for bringing the two-year-old NATO-Russia proxy war in Ukraine to an end. Now, the ball is in the West’s court, according to Russian international affairs expert Dmitry Suslov.
President Putin has confirmed to Tucker Carlson that Russia favors a “negotiated settlement” to the crisis in Ukraine, saying that it will be up to Kiev and its Western partners whether or not to accept it.
“We prepared a huge document in Istanbul [during peace talks in the spring of 2022, ed.] that was initialed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to some of the provisions, but not all of them. He put his signature and then said himself ‘we were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, eighteen months ago. However, [then-UK] Prime Minister [Boris] Johnson came, talked us out of it and we missed that chance’,” Putin said, referring to Ukrainian top negotiator David Arakhamia’s bombshell comments late last year about London’s role in sabotaging the Russia-Ukraine peace talks.
“Well, you missed it, you made a mistake, let them go back to that, that’s all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else’s mistakes?” Putin added, hinting Moscow’s readiness to return to the Istanbul format, which reportedly included non-bloc status enshrined in Ukraine’s constitution, security guarantees from world powers, restrictions on the size of the Ukrainian military, accepting Crimea and the Donbass’s status as part of Russia, etc.
Asked by Carlson whether Kiev’s NATO sponsors will be willing to accept a Russian victory in Ukraine, Putin said the alliance should “think how to do it with dignity,” noting that “there are options if there is a will.”
Unfortunately, Putin said, “up until now........
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“restrictions on the size of the Ukrainian military”
Why should other countries be allowed to dictate the size of Ukraine’s military ?
We that to Japan...
Darn it... We did that to Japan.
I dunno. Hasn’t the U.S. been doing this to other countries for almost as long as it has existed?
We defeated and occupied Japan. Russia will have to defeat and occupy Ukraine. Difficult to do when a few kilometers costs them tens of thousands of casualties, considerable damage to their Black Sea fleet and Russia’s infrastructure.
Every region of Ukraine voted for independence in 1991, the only region that was close was Crimea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum#By_region
But if we restrict Ukraine’s military size, how will the politicians grift off kickbacks in military aid to Ukraine?
“Darn it... We did that to Japan.”
Restrictions were put in place on Germany after WWI and we saw what happened.
it’s probably a real good idea for Ukraine to agree to a ceasefire and then sit down and have a discussion.
Putin’s point about the US supplying arms and money to the Ukraine was good.
We should NOT be doing that.
I have no problem with relief work by honorable charitable organizations for the citizenry displaced and uprooted by the war, the our GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT be involved.
>>>>>Putin’s point about the US supplying arms and money to the Ukraine was good.
We should NOT be doing that.
I have no problem with relief work by honorable charitable organizations for the citizenry displaced and uprooted by the war, the our GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT be involved.<<<
Except his Government funds and assists terrorists that have attacked US and it’s allies for decades.....There is that. While it sounds good at first, it’s the epitome of hypocrisy.
“Putin’s point about the US supplying arms and money to the Ukraine was good.”
The US supplies arms to a lot of countries.
Time to talk and stop shooting. Work a deal that people can live with.
Germany wasn’t occupied after WWI. They repudiated the restrictions and the European cowards did nothing It was after WW2 that Germany was occupied to make sure they didn’t do it yet again.
The Allies could have easily stomped Hitler into the ground after he annexed the Sudetenland. WW2 is a monument to the cowardice of the Brits and French. Hitler told the world what he intended and never wavered. The people who should have crushed him dithered and negotiated and let Germany rearm itself. They deserve as much contempt as the Nazis.
“Germany wasn’t occupied after WWI.”
Would Ukraine be occupied? Who would enforce restrictions?
Why should other countries be allowed to dictate the size of Ukraine’s military ?
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I know lots of people on FR who don’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons. US policy during the Cold War was to deny nuclear weapons to Cuba. I’m sure if the Soviets wanted to finance even a large, conventional weapons build up in Cuba, then that would have gotten a “No Bueno!” from the US government.
The German army was restricted to 100,000 men; the general staff was eliminated; the manufacture of armoured cars, tanks, submarines, airplanes, and poison gas was forbidden; and only a small number of specified factories could make weapons or munitions. All of Germany west of the Rhine and up to 30 miles (50 km) east of it was to be a demilitarized zone. The forced disarmament of Germany, it was hoped, would be accompanied by voluntary disarmament in other nations.
The Potsdam Agreement, after WWII, included the following:
4. Disposal of the German Navy and merchant marine.
All but thirty submarines to be sunk and the rest of the German Navy was to be divided equally between the three powers.
The German merchant marine was to be divided equally between the three powers, and they would distribute some of those ships to the other Allies. But until the end of the war with the Empire of Japan all the ships would remain under the authority of the Combined Shipping Adjustment Board and the United Maritime Authority.
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