Putin-Carlson Interview Riles the Fourth Estate

Liberty Nation News ^ | Feb 9, 2024 | Joe Schaeffer

[jacknhoo]

Tucker proves people have a hunger for information

In a hotly anticipated interview that began with a history lesson for Americans on the founding of Russia, President Vladimir Putin told Tucker Carlson that NATO expansion eastward and a 2014 coup that installed an anti-Russian government in Ukraine forced his country into war in 2022.

“In 2008… the doors of NATO were opened for Ukraine,” Putin said to Carlson in a sweeping conversation posted to X on Thursday, February 8. The former Fox News host has become the focus of intense vitriol within big-box media and political circles for traveling to Moscow to speak with the Russian leader.

“In 2014, there was a coup (and) they started persecuting those who did not accept the coup,” Putin stated. “They created the threat to Crimea, which we had to take under our protection. They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started.”

Carlson: A Puppet for Putin? Carlson has been pilloried by establishment political and media figures for talking with Putin. Hillary Clinton garnered headlines by calling him a “useful idiot.” Never-Trumper Steve Schmidt, who worked on presidential campaigns for John McCain and George W. Bush, was even more harsh in his assessment.

“He is a vessel for foreign poison to reach our free society, in which he seems to delight, undermining with lies, omissions and utter nonsense,” Schmidt wrote on his Substack account. “It is important to remember that Tucker Carlson is not engaged in an act of dissent or speech. He is a propagandist carrying water for a Russian war criminal who hates the United States, and is committed to conflict with the west.”

The New York Times took a unique approach in its attacks on Carlson, warning that his new form of independent journalism makes him easy prey to be manipulated.

“Russia has defined impartiality as hewing to its official line, deviation from which risks the decidedly censorious penalty of jail time. That goes against traditional journalistic standards — standards that Mr. Carlson does not have to concern himself with at X,” The Times caustically observed in a February 8 “Media Memo” feature article. The paper stated that Carlson’s “self-produced interviews on X – which lack the slick production values he once enjoyed on cable TV – have not had the same obvious influence on the national debate that he wielded on Fox News.”

“His waning power seemed to be at least part of the reason that Fox had not done more to stop his new endeavor even though Fox said it violated the terms of his contract,” The Times added.

So, what was it about the interview that so incensed the Fourth Estate?

‘We Were Promised No NATO to the East’ “They launched a large-scale military operation,” Putin said of Ukraine. “Then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare for the next one. All this against the background of military development of this territory and opening of NATO’s doors.”

“How could we not express concern over what was happening? From our side, this would have been a culpable negligence,” Putin stressed. “It’s just that the US political leadership pushed us to the line we could not cross because doing so could have ruined Russia itself. Besides, we could not leave our brothers in faith, in fact, a part of Russian people, in the face of this war machine.”

Putin is referring to the citizens in Ukraine’s disputed eastern territories, who he asserts see themselves as Russian. Putin emphasized as part of his argument that Ukrainians as a whole are spiritually Russian, with Ukrainization being a creation of Soviet Union founder Vladimir Lenin.

Putin declared the Ukrainian government headed by President Volodymyr Zelensky is nothing more than a proxy for the United States and its foreign policy interests. “Ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the US,” he said. “It is evident. I do not want you to take it as if I am looking for a strong word or an insult. But we both understand what is happening. The financial support. Seventy-two billion US dollars was provided…. Dozens of billions of US dollars are going to Ukraine. There’s a huge influx of weapons. In this case, you should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to a negotiating table.”

He warned about the dangers of wide-scale war due to this monolithic antipathy for Russia. “It goes against common sense to get involved in some kind of a global war and a global war will bring all humanity to the brink of destruction.”

A Media Reaction

Putin himself told Carlson that he realizes the entire dominant establishment media apparatus in the West is aligned against Russia. “It is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media,” Putin said.

And while Putin is clearly trying to paint himself and his war efforts in the most positive light, the reaction of the Fourth Estate is one that many readers and viewers might find confusing. Of course Vladimir Putin will try to propagandize his access to foreign media, but that doesn’t mean the American people don’t want to know his rationale or even his plans for the future. In fact, some would argue that such knowledge is a necessity. The Putin interview has amassed more than 85 million views since Carlson posted it to X last night; the appetite for information is strong, and it seems the big-box media is unwilling to satiate.

[PGalt]

The Fourth Reich

[bk1000]

Methinks they doth protest too much.

[Lockbox]

“It is important to remember that Democrats are not engaged in an act of dissent or speech. They are propagandists carrying water for a the war criminals who hate the United States, and are committed to conflict for fundamental change in the west.”

Fix it…

[epluribus_2]

Which estate houses the Military Industrial Complex?

IMHO the US, UK French, other MIC chapters LOVE this war.

Russia probably has a similar eater of national treasure.

When the WIC is engaged in protecting our sovereigty (borders, people) it is treasure well spent. The four estates could care less about that for some diabolical reason.

[epluribus_2]

Here, here.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "So, what was it about the interview that so incensed the Fourth Estate? "

Stepping well back from the latest incarnation of "Russiagate" hysteria, an obvious phenomenon is observed, having NOTHING to do with either Putin or Carlson (no, I haven't listened to the interview).

That phenomenon is that the so-called "gate keepers" in the media, worldwide, are ever more losing their monopoly. The internet has accelerated alternative news and opinion, and bolstered free speech. For this the EU's chief growled about "misinformation," which of course means information a gate keeper wants suppressed, as much as disinformation gate keepers want promoted.

Subscribers walk away. News staff are being laid off in ever larger numbers. Some corrupt, Lefty media is teetering financially. And they know it. The "walk away" is measurable.

Gate keepers who have ever smaller gates to keep, but who dream still of their glory days, are unhappy folk. Angry folk. Per such as Adam Smith's imagery of the "invisible hand," they are being laid off. And it is the market of ideas which is the 'guilty' party.

These gate keepers hate the contemporary versions of the "samizdat" of the old Soviet Union days or the "White Rose non-violent resistance group" of Nazi Germany" and like groups which "spread" information unwanted by the "authorities."

Authorities losing authority can be rather upset....

Best wishes.

[bray]

Ukraine was the main money laundry for the DNC.

[tlozo]

Putin-Carlson Interview Riles the Fourth Estate

Putin riled Tucker at the start.

At the beginning of the interview, Carlson asserted that Putin "had come to the conclusion that the United States, through NATO, might initiate a 'surprise attack'" on Russia.

"To American ears, that sounds paranoid," Carlson continued. "Tell us why you believe the United States might strike Russia out of the blue. How did you conclude that?"

"It's not that America, the United States was going to launch a surprise strike on Russia," Putin responded. "I didn't say that. Are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?"

Carlson reacted by laughing and offering to read the Russian president his own quote. Putin ignored him and instead began an extended explanation of the "historical background" of Russia and Ukraine, before arguing that Moscow was justified in claiming parts of Ukrainian territory.

[Sacajaweau]

I’ve been saying it right along...we were responsible for the 2014 coup...and the Chocolate King, who absolutely hated everything Russian, began the campaign to make Russians the most hated people on earth. And it continues to this day.

[hardspunned]

Putin is practically begging for a negotiated settlement but the neocons demand unconditional surrender. Fortunately, the rats nest of NATO Quislings in Kiev is falling apart. Unconditional Surrender is closer than the neocons suspect.

[Wilderness Conservative]

Pat and Jeff on the Blaze this morning were not impressed. That tells me it was an important interview. I think this tools are still pulling for Jeb.

[tlozo]

I’ve been saying it right along...we were responsible for the 2014 coup.

LOL, sure, because no country and its people would rationally want to join the EU and its better standard of living vs some Russian-BananaStan economic group(CIS). Okay

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[SharpRightTurn]

The American Lamestream media is having an apoplectic fit because Tucker has found such a huge audience without them. And the fact that he has done so as a conservative drives them insane.

[tlozo]

Putin is practically begging for a negotiated settlement

Right, because this future treaty Putin will honor, vs the many he broke by invading Ukraine? Putin even broke a treaty he personally signed with Ukraine, the 2003 “Treaty Between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian–Ukrainian State Border”. It set Ukraine’s borders as they were in 1991 & was lodged with the UN.

Russian violated treaties

UN Charter 1945

Nuclear NPT 1970

Helsinki Accords 1975

Belovezha Accords 91–92

Budapest Memo 94

Black Sea Fleet Treaty 97

Friendship Treaty 98

Treaty on Azov Sea & Kerch Strait 03

Border treaty 03

Karkiv pact 10

[bert]

Freeper duper

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[metmom]

“Russia has defined impartiality as hewing to its official line, deviation from which risks the decidedly censorious penalty of jail time. That goes against traditional journalistic standards — standards that Mr. Carlson does not have to concern himself with at X,” The Times caustically observed in a February 8 “Media Memo” feature article.

Just like the American government. Jan 6 anyone?

Putin is referring to the citizens in Ukraine’s disputed eastern territories, who he asserts see themselves as Russian. Putin emphasized as part of his argument that Ukrainians as a whole are spiritually Russian, with Ukrainization being a creation of Soviet Union founder Vladimir Lenin.

The Ukrainians had their own language, culture, and identity before Lenin came on the scene. MY grandmother emigrated from the Ukraine BEFORE WW1 and the Communist Revolution. She had every intention of going back once she had earned enough money to buy land and live free and independent.

WW I and the Communist Revolution destroyed everything. There was nothing left to go back for.

[metmom]

Exactly.......

[Alberta's Child]