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Hamas Says No Deal on Hostages It wants to be left in power in Gaza to repeat Oct. 7 all over again [Genocidal "Palestinians"]
WSJ ^ | Feb 6, 2024

Posted on 02/08/2024 1:34:07 AM PST by Milagros

Hamas rejected the latest U.S.-negotiated hostage deal Tuesday, turning down a long pause in the fighting, the release of many dangerous terrorists, and other troubling terms that Israel was willing to swallow to free its people. The Hamas kidnappers say they will keep their 132 hostages—dead or alive—unless Israel ends the war entirely and guarantees Hamas control over Gaza. President Biden called Hamas’s reply “a little over the top,” perhaps forgetting that he’s dealing with jihadists, not Republicans. He called Hamas “the opposition” before he was corrected. Qatar tried to spin Hamas’s answer as a “positive response,” but it’s a repetition of the standard pattern in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations: Following Palestinian terror, the U.S. pressures Israel into risky concessions, only for the Palestinians to turn down the offer at their own people’s expense. Hamas says it wants a “comprehensive and complete cease-fire,” but it certainly doesn’t want peace. If there’s one point on which Hamas has been consistent, it is that it will repeat its Oct. 7 massacre “again and again,” as Politburo member Ghazi Hamad said on Oct. 24. The latest to beat that drum is senior Hamas official Ali Baraka, last seen explaining on Oct. 8 how Hamas had fooled the Israelis: “We made them think that Hamas was busy with governing Gaza, and that it wanted to focus on the 2.5 million Palestinians,” he said. On Jan. 30 Mr. Baraka, the head of Hamas National Relations Abroad, reiterated that Hamas’s plan and priority is to massacre more Jews.

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TOPICS: Hamas; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hamas; jihad; onetrackmind; paliscum; swordsofiron

1 posted on 02/08/2024 1:34:07 AM PST by Milagros
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To: Milagros
Hamas may have attacked at the right time. I'm not sure if Israel's gay, feminized, and woke military has the strength to defeat Hamas.

2 posted on 02/08/2024 1:48:15 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Milagros

From the river to the sea.
Gaza MUST be Hamas-free!


3 posted on 02/08/2024 2:03:42 AM PST by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

Drown the hostages.


4 posted on 02/08/2024 2:09:57 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Milagros

As horrible as it is to say if Israel wants get rid of Hamas the hostages are the equivalent of sunk costs.

Without the hostages Hamas has no leverage.


5 posted on 02/08/2024 2:19:42 AM PST by Fzob (“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential)
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To: Milagros
I can't believe that the future of Israel is being dictated by the fate of less than 132 living hostages.

We know that at least 32 of the hostages are already confirmed dead and given the Hamas negotiating position, it's likely that many of the rest are either already dead or can never be released because of what has been done to them.

There are reports that the IDF knows where much of the Hamas leadership is hiding but will not attack them because the hostages are being used as human shields.

It's crazy.

6 posted on 02/08/2024 2:27:15 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: Fzob

“As horrible as it is to say if Israel wants get rid of Hamas the hostages are the equivalent of sunk costs.”

This is true, God rest them.

But the upside is that now Israel can take the gloves off. Kill everyone and everything that so much as twitches resistance in Gaza. There will never be peace with them until Gaza is completely subdued and annexed to Israel permanently.

L


7 posted on 02/08/2024 2:30:26 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Milagros

Just like western 2 state “solution “ is not the answer because one side does not want two states. Let you guess which side that is.
Leaving humus in charge, even if hostages are released just means more hostages and violence down the road.
WTS, humus is not really the issue, the ideology of death to Jews, river to the sea is not limited to one “organization “

Israel needs to take all the territories of Gaza and west bank under their control.

And frankly until Iran is properly dealt with, even that control will not solve much


8 posted on 02/08/2024 3:46:35 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

They’re doing a pretty good job of it right now.


9 posted on 02/08/2024 3:57:04 AM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Fzob
As horrible as it is to say if Israel wants get rid of Hamas the hostages are the equivalent of sunk costs.

Suck it up; consider the hostages dead. They may already be dead anyway. Continue to sterilize Gaza. Hunt down the Hamas leaders who flee abroad. This is only form of defeat Islam recognizes.

10 posted on 02/08/2024 4:06:56 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Milagros

bkmk


11 posted on 02/08/2024 4:07:24 AM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: Milagros
...the release of many dangerous terrorists...
IFCBI
12 posted on 02/08/2024 4:18:07 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Milagros

ham ass wants permanent war.

Give it to them until there are none left.


13 posted on 02/08/2024 4:38:09 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: Lurker

“Kill everyone and everything that so much as twitches resistance in Gaza.”

Can’t be repeated enough.


14 posted on 02/08/2024 4:40:30 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: Milagros

Here is my solution: In a strongly worded letter, Israel should inform Hamas that they should “LET MY PEOPLE GO!” If they don’t, there will be a series of catastrophies that consume the Gazans, Palestinians, and Iranians, each more severe than the previous one. On the tenth catastrophe, then Hamas leadership will turn themselves in to Israel to face trial, and Iran will begin compensation, or all the Iranian entities will be utterly destroyed. It is a GOOD PLAN, and has worked in the past. LET MY PEOPLE GO!


15 posted on 02/08/2024 5:22:59 AM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Fzob

>Without the hostages Hamas has no leverage.<

That’s why it’s a safe assumption to say the hostages are already dead or Hamas would have accepted the deal.

The only leverage left is to bluff that the hostages are still alive to buy time and hope.

EC


16 posted on 02/08/2024 6:12:38 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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To: Milagros

Bibi should ask Ham ass to provide video of all the hostages to determine if they are alive before any type of negotiations continue.


17 posted on 02/08/2024 9:08:32 AM PST by Rappini ("No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation" MacArthr)
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To: Fzob

What evidence is available that the hostages are alive?


18 posted on 02/08/2024 10:10:23 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Suck it up; consider the hostages dead. They may already be dead anyway.

Schrödinger's hostage?

19 posted on 02/08/2024 12:06:42 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: Milagros

The DIE faction speaks


20 posted on 02/08/2024 12:12:03 PM PST by combat_boots
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