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The West’s humiliating electric car climbdown has begun
Yahoo News ^ | 2/2/24 | Matthew Lynn

Posted on 02/03/2024 11:05:04 AM PST by CFW

France’s President Macron had a plan to make millions of electric vehicles a year. Chancellor Scholz planned to put 15 million on Germany’s roads by 2030. President Biden trumped the lot with a $174bn (£138bn) plan to make the US the world leader. Even Boris Johnson Get info without leaving the page.

– remember him – had a £1bn plan to beef up our charging network.

Rewind only a couple of years, and almost every president or prime minister was making electric vehicles the cornerstone of an industrial strategy. And yet, this week we have learned that Renault is abandoning plans to separately list its electric vehicle (EV) and software business, while Volvo is winding down its Polestar electric sports car subsidiary.

In reality, amid an onslaught of Chinese competition, and falling sales, the West’s electric vehicle dream is quickly unravelling – and we need to relearn all the lessons in why grand, state-led industrial strategies never work.

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There is nothing wrong with EVs themselves. They are often great as run-arounds for dense urban environments, and as long as the raw materials are sourced correctly, and the chargers are not powered by coal-burning generators, they are probably a little better for the environment than the petrol version.

If people want them, then that’s great. The trouble with the industry right now is that demand is falling because the vehicles cost far more than anyone expected, and what market there is will be captured by Chinese manufacturers such as BYD that can make vehicles far more cheaply than anyone in the West can. The result? A lot of government money will be wasted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; business; deadbatteries; ecars; economy; electric; ev; evs; failure; fires
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To: CFW

I’ve been watching videos on YouBoob by an Aussie guy calling himself “Auto Expert John Cadogan”. He has a filthy mouth, uses the word “dude” way to much, and has lengthy embedded commercials, but he’s truly entertaining.

His latest:

New Polestar 4: Another pointless, overweight EV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDbd9Jattm0

Unfortunately he is a climate change believer, but he has a lot to say about the hypocrisy of the EV “revolution”. He calls Musk the “Electric Jesus”.


21 posted on 02/03/2024 11:43:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: rktman

TRILLIONS of dollars pissed away for nothing.


22 posted on 02/03/2024 11:43:54 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: alloysteel

AND uses regenerative braking to convert the kinetic energy to potential energy in the battery.

Somebody should get right on that.


23 posted on 02/03/2024 11:44:56 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: devere

“There is nothing wrong with EVs themselves.”
I stopped reading after that.


Likewise. Another t*rd merchant climate cult apologist.


24 posted on 02/03/2024 11:49:37 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: CFW
The West’s humiliating electric car climbdown has begun

Right above this story in the thread feed

This BMW in-wheel motor will change everything in EVs: a new era in the automotive industry (or not)

25 posted on 02/03/2024 11:51:13 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: CFW
Entertaining video of a guy loving his brand new 6,000 dollar high performance ebike.

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26 posted on 02/03/2024 11:52:32 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: cba123

Not my circus, not my monkeys. I’m keeping my ICE.


27 posted on 02/03/2024 11:52:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: CFW

Today’s electric cars are tomorrow’s Pet Rocks.


28 posted on 02/03/2024 11:58:10 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say about our leaders. Your refrigerator )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Last bullet point is my fav


29 posted on 02/03/2024 11:59:54 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: CFW

These fools always need some environmental boondoggle to sell to the masses. Each boondoggle is some Marxist fantasy presented as a way to artificially claim some moral superiority while cloaking their real intent to extract more wealth from the masses and bludgeon them with more rules and restrictions while collecting human freedom.

Electric vehicles are a shameful rape of the earth.
Ethanol has filled more landfills with damaged engines and assorted parts while ethanol itself is highly corrosive and environmentally harmful, again with absolutely no reasonable benefit whatsoever.
Paper grocery bags mandated to plastic bags (taxed) then to bacteria laden fabric bags.

The list of environmental boondoggles is almost as endless as the deceit of the Marxists themselves.


30 posted on 02/03/2024 12:02:06 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: CFW

I, and all the fellow university prof EEs I know, laugh at those who actually believe that we can go all electric without major changes to our generating capacity, the grid, battery design, charging stations, and more.......


31 posted on 02/03/2024 12:02:38 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: alloysteel

I would start with the engineering department at Hanna Barbera. They pioneered transportation technology for several societies; all the way from The Flintstones to The Jetsons.


32 posted on 02/03/2024 12:03:05 PM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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To: CFW

EVs are doing their job. Making it harder for the average person to afford personal transportation.


33 posted on 02/03/2024 12:04:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bernard

I had to give up my dreams of a flying car when I realized we don’t have any space sprockets yet.


34 posted on 02/03/2024 12:08:16 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Add three more points to your list.

1. EV’s are much more expensive to insure, because relatively minor accidents can “total” them.

2. Since the engine does not generate heat via internal combustion, the heater in the car is powered by the batteries, further reducing range during cold weather.

3. EV school busses are so heavy, only the largest tow trucks can move them when they break down.


35 posted on 02/03/2024 12:14:42 PM PST by JohnEBoy (I voted for Trump to be my president, not my pastor.)
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To: Karl Spooner

I guess he texted someone to come get his ass. At least he could light his smoke off it.


36 posted on 02/03/2024 12:15:55 PM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: Obadiah
These fools always need some environmental boondoggle to sell to the masses. Each boondoggle is some Marxist fantasy presented as a way to artificially claim some moral superiority while cloaking their real intent to extract more wealth from the masses and bludgeon them with more rules and restrictions while collecting human freedom.

Excellent! Exactly right. That is all the Climate Catastrophe hoax does. Plus it constantly scares the populace who will vote for the politicians who will "do something." 95% of the people don't know that the 'do something' means you will either be living like cave men eating bugs or have hundreds of nuclear power plants built around the world to sustain a modern lifestyle.

Of course, they could always ruin the upper atmosphere with an aerosol to block sunlight or erect giant sunshades in space to block sunlight and send the globe into a major Ice Age meaning food crops and livestock will decline 90% leading to major depopulation. "Oops, we didn't mean to do that. Sorry."

37 posted on 02/03/2024 12:16:29 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Add: very expensive to repair. Specialized repair shop needed.

I don’t begrudge people who choose to buy EVs (wife has a Model S), but I’m sticking with my ICE car. I have an engineering background and know that total conversion to EVs is a fantasy. Kalifornia has mandated only EVs can be sold on or after 2035. I have yet to see or hear of any move to double the electric grid’s capacity to support an all EV vehicle fleet. Yet another initiative from our glorious leader Newsom and his cabal of the deranged to crush Kali’s economy.


38 posted on 02/03/2024 12:17:31 PM PST by tony549 (Stuck in SoCal)
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To: Karl Spooner

That guy in the bike video was not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. When his bike battery started smoking, he stuck his head into the smoke and fumes and blew on it as if he was blowing out a candle. Alas, it did no good and his brand new $6000 e-bike was soon a flaming pile of rubbish by the side of the road.


39 posted on 02/03/2024 12:19:33 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: JohnEBoy

Thanks. Added for future use. I keep the HTML unordered list ready to go at all times.


40 posted on 02/03/2024 12:21:01 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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