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Hamas's tunnels are bigger in scale than the Tube in London - what can Israel do?
SKY News ^ | December 9, 2023 | By Sean Bell

Posted on 12/09/2023 5:29:52 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Despite overwhelming military superiority, Israel is struggling to develop an effective strategy to tackle the tunnel network under Gaza.

This "underworld" has provided Hamas with a degree of sanctuary beyond the gaze of satellites, drones and military forces.

How will Israel defeat Hamas without destroying the tunnel network?

The "Gaza metro" is bigger in scale than the London Underground network. Many of the tunnels were originally dug in the early 1980s to bypass the border between Egypt and Rafah, enabling the illegal smuggling of trade and weapons.

However, they have since been expanded into two further categories: defensive and offensive.

The former is primarily focused on the storage of weapons, logistic supplies (fuel, water and food) and command and control HQs, whereas the latter is an elaborate network of tunnels across the border into Israel to enable Hamas to take small-scale offensive action, and crucially to seize hostages.

Since assuming control of Gaza in 2006, Hamas has taken the development of the tunnel network to a new level.

The soft sandstone under Gaza is conducive to tunnelling, but Hamas has also adapted the network in response to Israel's various attempts to destroy it.

Bunker buster bombs could penetrate deep underground - and if they did not destroy a tunnel directly, the shifting sands would cause nearby tunnels to implode.

By digging the tunnels deeper - the main network is now over 20m (65ft) down rather than around 10m (32ft) for the original tunnels - Hamas made them far more difficult to target and destroy.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Hamas; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; hamastunnels; islam; terrorism; tunnel; tunnels
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Flood them. Even an extensive tunnel network should not be too hard to flood in a few weeks despite any drainage. Just some really big pumps drawing water from the Med should do it. Now that may lead to collapse of some building in Gaza. Oh well. Cry me a river (or in this case a sea).


21 posted on 12/09/2023 6:08:17 AM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I *like* your plan. Sounds good to me...


22 posted on 12/09/2023 6:12:11 AM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s interesting how the bad guys defeated satellite surveillance with something as simple as tunnels. However in the end game, a tunnel is a death trap.

Having actually worked in government underground facilities, one thing I learned is fresh air is needed and in the case of where I worked it was pumped downstairs with a fan from a huge topside air vent. If the Israelis could find these ventilation shafts they could be plugged.


23 posted on 12/09/2023 6:15:04 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who paid for the tunnels?

You know who.


24 posted on 12/09/2023 6:18:45 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Deeper but still floodable ...


25 posted on 12/09/2023 6:18:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Qwapisking

It’s clear that deprogramming Zeepers is going to take a long long time.


26 posted on 12/09/2023 6:18:59 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Celtic Conservative

Israel is pumping millions of gallons of seawater into the tunnels daily.

That’s in a series of abandoned tunnels in the north of Gaza


27 posted on 12/09/2023 6:19:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

Draw back of flooding is that the ground becomes unstable


28 posted on 12/09/2023 6:21:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Israel is pumping millions of gallons of seawater into the tunnels “

Do we know they are actually doing that yet?


29 posted on 12/09/2023 6:24:15 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing I can add that hasn’t already been posted. Gas ‘em, flood ‘em, fill ‘em with bacon fat, blow ‘em up, seed ‘em with thousands of anti-personnel mines, I don’t care. If there are Paleswineans down there, they can come up and surrender if they aren’t ready for their 72 virgins. (I’d kinda rather they didn’t, but I’m humane that way.)


30 posted on 12/09/2023 6:24:50 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“ How will Israel defeat Hamas without destroying the tunnel network?”

Drown them out. Pump seawater in until you think you’ve gotten all of them. Then pump for another month.

L


31 posted on 12/09/2023 6:25:43 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Flooding the tunnels with water is the obvious choice... But a more sensible choice would be flooding them with oil... Then light it on fire and watch them burn.


32 posted on 12/09/2023 6:31:11 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Gazans don’t have the brain matter to build Gaza or produce anything. They are International Welfare Recipients....that’s who and what they are when they’re not buidling rockets, bombs or throwing stones.


33 posted on 12/09/2023 6:31:22 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: SauronOfMordor

You forgot 1A: Pump in hundreds of gallons of bacon grease, film the operation and release those videos on the internet daily.

THEN proceed to step 2.

What are they going to do, get mad and start committing acts of terrorism?


34 posted on 12/09/2023 6:32:15 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: liberalh8ter

We should send the 100 razorbacks to put in the tunnels. That ought to liven things up.


35 posted on 12/09/2023 6:35:15 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Collapse and backfill


36 posted on 12/09/2023 6:40:35 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good News/Bad News

It’s nice to see some industriousness finally emerge from an Islamic population.

On the other hand . . .


37 posted on 12/09/2023 6:44:08 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Clutch Martin

“”” turn them into sewers.””””


I like this idea. Run a pipeline from the Jerusalem sewage plant to Gaza and fill the Hamas tunnels.


38 posted on 12/09/2023 6:45:13 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: CodeToad

Israel has a Deep State, too...


39 posted on 12/09/2023 6:46:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Or, simply cut off the aid. Let them eat their hatred.


40 posted on 12/09/2023 7:04:24 AM PST by Clioman
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