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"This Is Grim" One Democratic Pollster Says
New York Times ^ | December 6, 2023 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 12/06/2023 4:22:52 AM PST by Jim Noble

The predictive power of horse-race polling a year from the presidential election is weak at best. The Biden campaign can take some comfort in that.

But what recent surveys do reveal is that the coalition that put Biden in the White House in the first place is nowhere near as strong as it was four years ago...

These danger signs include fraying support among core constituencies, including young voters, Black voters and Hispanic voters, and the decline, if not the erasure, of traditional Democratic advantages in representing the interests of the middle class and speaking for the average voter.

Any of these on their own might not be cause for alarm, but taken together they present a dangerous situation for Biden...

Particularly worrisome for Democrats, who plan to demonize Trump as a threat to democracy, are the advantages Trump and Republicans have on opposing extremism (3 points), getting beyond the chaos (6 points) and protecting the Constitution (8 points)...

There is some evidence in both the Democracy Corp survey and in other polls that concerns specific to Biden — including his age and the surge in prices during his presidency — are driving the perception of Democratic weakness rather than discontent with the party itself...

The one ace in the hole for Democrats is Donald Trump himself. As the center of attention in the elections of 2018, 2020 and even 2022, Trump was the key to Democratic victory. Trump is doing all he can to become the focus in 2024, but the question remains whether the Democrats, with Biden at the top of the ticket, can successfully demonize him again.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: 38special

They can’t. This is the whole point. They would have to start manufacturing in August. So . . . they manufacture with Rutabaga’s name on it? Then he can’t drop out.

Last time they stole the election despite “81 million votes) by a mere 200k in five states. Can’t be done again without five months of China Virus mail ins. This was not done by computers. It was done by the “mules” and “mules” take time.

Plus, more election integrity laws in many states, not to mention the fact that Trump is simply going to crush the fraud this time by more votes. Last time he didn’t lead in a single national poll and “lost” by 200k votes, while this time he leads by 2-3 in ALL national polls. Massive difference from 2020 but the key is they cannot switch out Rutabaga.


41 posted on 12/06/2023 7:36:34 AM PST by LS
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To: Jim Noble

My current prediction: Kamala ‘moves on’, Joe runs with Newsome, they win (of course, because GOP won’t running Trump), Joe ‘retires’ shortly thereafter. Newsome is soon to be our president. Women gush over him. Hell, even Hannity gushed over him. He’s highly dyslexic and would thus be a danger to our republic in a time of war, but nobody cares any longer.


42 posted on 12/06/2023 7:51:22 AM PST by drwoof
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To: Jim Noble

Not so fast. A clarion call for abortion, coupled with an endorsement from Taylor Swift will be more than enough to drag old Biden across the election win barrier.


43 posted on 12/06/2023 8:21:57 AM PST by nwrep
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To: LS

But “Biden” electors can vote for anyone.


44 posted on 12/06/2023 9:27:34 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Jim Noble

Any rubber stamp for the devil will do with these folks.
Cheating is a virtue among their leaders and their voters too.
Conspiring to cheat is not even necessary for them.
They belong to Satan.

Cue the church lady...
Keep your powder dry.


45 posted on 12/06/2023 9:44:26 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Jim Noble

Jim you’re missing the point. The electors don’t matter if they don’t have the ballots to GET the electors.

If, say, 25 million early/absentee ballots went out with Biden’s name; they did a switcheroo; on election day 50 million vote for Mr. New Candidate; Biden loses the electoral college huge no matter what the electors do.

ANY flip of the top candidate risks massive (I’m talking 30%) split of the D vote into two candidates which is a Trump landslide. Trump currently is down only 10 in NEW YORK! Imagine what a 30% decrease in Biden’s vote there would do?

And the STATE doesn’t select the electors, the PARTY does and the conservative party in NY is pretty darn Trumpish.


46 posted on 12/07/2023 6:47:41 AM PST by LS
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To: Jim Noble

They’re just trying to get us believing we’re in good shape, so they can blindside us with the even more massive fraud they’ll need to “win” this time.


47 posted on 12/08/2023 3:05:17 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: janetjanet998

It’s who counts the votes.


48 posted on 02/28/2024 5:52:39 PM PST by Hiddigeigei (.)
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To: Jim Noble

They were saying that in 2019, and then came COVID.


49 posted on 02/28/2024 5:53:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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