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"This Is Grim" One Democratic Pollster Says
New York Times ^ | December 6, 2023 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 12/06/2023 4:22:52 AM PST by Jim Noble

The predictive power of horse-race polling a year from the presidential election is weak at best. The Biden campaign can take some comfort in that.

But what recent surveys do reveal is that the coalition that put Biden in the White House in the first place is nowhere near as strong as it was four years ago...

These danger signs include fraying support among core constituencies, including young voters, Black voters and Hispanic voters, and the decline, if not the erasure, of traditional Democratic advantages in representing the interests of the middle class and speaking for the average voter.

Any of these on their own might not be cause for alarm, but taken together they present a dangerous situation for Biden...

Particularly worrisome for Democrats, who plan to demonize Trump as a threat to democracy, are the advantages Trump and Republicans have on opposing extremism (3 points), getting beyond the chaos (6 points) and protecting the Constitution (8 points)...

There is some evidence in both the Democracy Corp survey and in other polls that concerns specific to Biden — including his age and the surge in prices during his presidency — are driving the perception of Democratic weakness rather than discontent with the party itself...

The one ace in the hole for Democrats is Donald Trump himself. As the center of attention in the elections of 2018, 2020 and even 2022, Trump was the key to Democratic victory. Trump is doing all he can to become the focus in 2024, but the question remains whether the Democrats, with Biden at the top of the ticket, can successfully demonize him again.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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One more nail in the coffin. For those of you who are not regular NYT/WaPo readers - they have been printing articles of this nature since last Christmas. These articles are written by waht amount to stenographers for the ruling class - like Thomas B. Edsall, for example.

The bottem line: Biden is finished, everyone who knows the shot knows it, and the press is breaking the news to the few Democrats who think "Biden" is a thing.

1 posted on 12/06/2023 4:22:52 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

I still think Joe will be expected to limp all the way to the Convention. Then it’s time for his health problems to “suddenly become apparent”. And the Convention will choose someone by acclamation at the last minute. No time for campaign stumbles by the new person. No time for opposition research. No time for media scrutiny. Some say it will be Newsom. I say it will be Michelle (who won’t work a single day but will blatantly vacation for 4 years while First Husband Barack enjoys his fourth term in office.


2 posted on 12/06/2023 4:27:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Jim Noble

No way Biden will run if polls continue to show this

He lost the popular vote by over 2 points in 2016 and “lost” it by over 4 in 2020

It’s going to be comical watching the panic and pressure on him to drop out


3 posted on 12/06/2023 4:30:38 AM PST by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Don’t be suckered. The Democrat Zombie voters and the Abortion crazies will be out in force.

We have to show up!


4 posted on 12/06/2023 4:31:01 AM PST by MMusson
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To: Jim Noble

As long as their fraud machine is intact, they should be able to steal it again.


5 posted on 12/06/2023 4:31:35 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: ClearCase_guy
I say it will be Michelle (who won’t work a single day but will blatantly vacation for 4 years while First Husband Barack enjoys his fourth term in office.

I don't think so. President Obama seemed bored being President, especially during his second term.

6 posted on 12/06/2023 4:34:40 AM PST by Fury
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To: Jim Noble

“The bottem line: Biden is finished”

Biden might be finished, but that means nothing. Whomever the RATs have determined as next in line during their succession planning meetings will be inaugurated. To quote Nancy Pelosi, “You can take that to the bank”.

Their cheating has no bounds.


7 posted on 12/06/2023 4:36:36 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - WiersbeIIRC, )
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But what recent surveys do reveal is that the coalition that put Biden in the White House in the first place is nowhere near as strong as it was four years ago...

Ah, they must be referring to the “coalition” of vote mules, leftists, uniparty hacks, biased judges, even more biased and dishonest bureaucrats, and still more biased and dishonest media whores.

8 posted on 12/06/2023 4:37:00 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: MMusson
Don’t be suckered. The Democrat Zombie voters and the Abortion crazies will be out in force.

Exactly. The Left is always about agenda, and they'll be there for Joe. The good news for us is Joe has sucked as President, the Left doesn't have Covid to gin up fear voting, and they don't have Twitter to help set the agenda. If Trump stays on message (which means staying away from 2020), we win.

9 posted on 12/06/2023 4:41:46 AM PST by Kharis13
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To: ClearCase_guy

NO chance that Herself would be dusted off and set up again in a rematch of 2016. If Joe is past his expiration date, Herself is fermented, and turned to mold and little curled particles.

Julián Castro is an American lawyer and politician from San Antonio, Texas. He is not completely unknown, having served in the Obama Cabinet, 2014 to 2017, as Secretary of HUD. It would take little effort to polish him up and give him wide exposure, and might just shore up the Hispanic vote.

Obama still gets his fourth term.


10 posted on 12/06/2023 4:44:06 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Jim Noble

The biggest threat to Trump and MAGA are from TDS Republicans.


11 posted on 12/06/2023 4:44:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Jim Noble

Hmmm...FJB will fart, shuffle and whisperscream his way through while the msm carries his water [and colostomy bag].

Then:

On some Wednesday after voting month, the dumbles will have stumbled into yet another impossible victory...a regular miracle where the “people have spoken so shut up already”.

That seems most likely. This more talk like the “big red wave” of 2022.


12 posted on 12/06/2023 4:44:30 AM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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The bottom line: Biden is finished

No he's not. It doesn't matter if Biden is half-dead or incapacitated. Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona have all the fraud instruments in place. I saw it in real time from 12:00 am to 6:00 am after election day in 2020. The same thing will happen again. The interesting thing is what happens next after the election. The whole world knows American elections are a sham.

13 posted on 12/06/2023 4:44:51 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Jim Noble

The head of The American Crime Family meets the Grim Reaper?


14 posted on 12/06/2023 4:45:29 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Jim Noble
Speaking of the NYT...

James O’Keefe Reveals Shocking Update on His Case Against FBI and New York Times After Raid of His Home (VIDEO)

And note the involvement of the SDNY.

Folks should watch that vid if they get the chance.

15 posted on 12/06/2023 4:47:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: HIDEK6
As long as their fraud machine is intact, they should be able to steal it again.

And thanks to the do-nothing craven, cowardly cuck GOP, the cheat is still in place.

16 posted on 12/06/2023 4:48:24 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MMusson

Yes. Don’t believe the polls. They only show the margin of cheating. Trump would have to be up 10% to be out of danger of cheating. Any poll closer would allow the Dems to stuff the ballot box and make the results appear reasonable.


17 posted on 12/06/2023 4:49:37 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think it won’t matter who they run. They’ve pretty much already perfected the art of the steal. And, with a complicit DOJ and Judiciary, they can hardly lose...


18 posted on 12/06/2023 4:54:30 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: Jim Noble

Maybe hinting at a pitching change before they “Recreate 68”.


19 posted on 12/06/2023 4:55:52 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Jim Noble

Democrats still have the lead in fake votes cast, stuffed ballot boxes.fake ballots printed.


20 posted on 12/06/2023 4:56:45 AM PST by stockpirate (A group of baboons is referred to as a "Congress" of baboons.)
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