Ukraine requests U.S. give it 17 million shells, $400 billion for "deoccupation of Ukraine"

NEWS.am ^ | December 4, 2023 | Staff

[Trump20162020]

During the visit of US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to Kyiv, he was informed that Ukraine needs 17 million shells, as well as 350-400 billion dollars of forces and resources in order to de-occupy the entire territory of the country, reports Ukrainska Pravda online newspaper.

"Calculations of the [Ukrainian] General Staff show that 350-400 billion dollars of forces and resources are needed to fulfill the task of liberating the entire territory of Ukraine. Some of the planning ideas were presented to Austin by the General Staff during his visit to Kyiv in November.

[BobL]

“Ukraine requests U.S. give it 17 million shells, $400 billion for “deoccupation of Ukraine””

Not a problem. Just a quick call from Secretary Austin to Raytheon: “Uhh, send me 17 million shells please, by the end of March”

See no problem.

(actually, no problem if Raytheon subs it out to China...otherwise, not even worth a comment)

[lurk]

Most of it to disappear into crony pockets. They don’t even try to hide it.

[CatOwner]

and what do we get back in return?

A bunch more annoying posts on FR about how Ukraine and Russia are winning. And you will like it!

[Liz]

Sen Graham is OK w/ arms giveaways to foreign countries
as he tramples 2A rights, “hammering out” tough gun
control laws for Americans trying to protect their families.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-congrol-red-flag-laws-bipartisan-progress-graham-blumenthal/

Lindsay Graham led a delegation of US Senators....5 Repubs and 5 Dems.... to Israel right after oct 7. Maryland Democrat Ben Cardin, Rhode Island Democratic Jack Reed, Alaska Republican Dan Sullivan, Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, Susan Collins (Maine Republican), Cory Booker (New Jersey Democrat), Katie Britt (Alabama Republican), Chris Coons, Dem Delaware Senator, John Thune, Repub SDakota Senator.

Israeli Opposition Leader Yair Lapid (center) asked for more US military aid.

And in the blink of an eye, Biden handed over to Israel:
<>some 57,000 artillery shells
<>more than 5,000 Mk82 unguided or “dumb” bombs,
<>more than 5,400 Mk84 2,000 pound warhead bombs,
<>around 1,000 GBU-39 small diameter bombs,
<>approximately 3,000 JDAMs, which turn unguided bombs into guided “smart” bombs,
<>BLU-109 bunker busters w/ 2,000 pound warheads designed to penetrate concrete shelters.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

The “source” is PRAVDA... don’t let the URL or source title fool you - it is the Russian national media’s page specifically about Ukraine. It is one of the biggest propaganda rags on the earth.

The cited source, "Ukrainska Pravda", is not Russian. It is an online Ukrainian newspaper, whose current owner (Dragon Capital) is a Ukrainian investment firm.

The choice of the word 'Pravda' is because it is the word for 'truth' in both Russian (правда) and Ukrainian (правда).

[McGruff]

Insane.

[Justa]

In return we get a successful repudiation of using military attacks for territorial conquest and expansion. Maybe even avoid wars in South Korea, Taiwan and Europe.

Maduro is eyeing annexing Guyana. So this stuff is spreading.

If you leave the doors unlocked someone eventually walks in and takes your stuff

[PGR88]

[Firehath]

I want

My reppoed dump truck back

Gambling debts too

Wwwhhhaaaahhhh

Wwwwwhhhaaaahhh

Wwhhhaaahh

[Firehath]

I want

My reppoed dump truck back

Gambling debts too

Wwwhhhaaaahhhh

Wwwwwhhhaaaahhh

Wwhhhaaahh

[JonPreston]

Now that Zelensky has been shown to be a common thief, how does it feel to have been wrong about everything involving Ukraine?

[Owen]

17 million shells weigh 95 pounds each.

That’s 1.6 billion pounds of explosives.

Scope a list of ammunition manufacturers and figure out how long production would take to get to 1.6 billion pounds.

[apoliticalone]

We average working saps in the USA have been forced into costly wars by scheming politicians and globalists that use “”WAR”” as a rationale to take gold from Ft Knox and add debt to our treasury. War gives them a rationale to create debt and access to our money and safety net so it can be handed over to scumbag elites and other countries. War serves the function of “emergency” crisis and Covid and any other situation where they take and spend our freedom. The country needs a serious purge of any politician who says we need to give away our country to others. Few of these countries on the taking side were ever true allies.

[House Atreides]

“$400 billion?

Such a bargain!”
*****************************************************************************

It truly is. It’s less than $2,000 for every man, woman and child (including illegal aliens) living in the United States. Come on folks —-have a heart and GIBS-‘EM-DAT-MONEY.

[wildcard_redneck]

Even if what you say is true, that “The source is Pravda,”doesn’t mean much give him the money we’ve given that little bugger is already in the tunes of hundreds of $ billions. Zelenskyy has never once dropped his beggar’s bowl.

[Terry L Smith]

go-ski fish-ski!!

[FlyingEagle]

That is way more than the USA pays for Medicare.

The USA cannot afford green t-shirt guy.

[SharpRightTurn]

Not a penny. End all foreign boondoggles and entanglements, zero out all spending for the U.N., WHO, etc., and start producing (and living by) balanced budgets.

[OKSooner]

So you don’t believe Pravda, but you do believe Joe and you believe Zelensky.

How about Vindman? Did you believe Vindman when he was belping Nancy impeach President Trump?

[apoliticalone]

I’m pxssed at the entire destructive to USA situation. I’m certain too we will be expected to rebuild Ukraine, Gaza and Israel while our country goes to ghettoland. And also expected to accept foreign speaking refugees. We’ve allowed our country to be hijacked by wealthy foreign born oligarchs and outsiders that will work to segregate Americans and control us with often leftist policies while selectively offering dual citizenship to some.