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Navy ‘safely’ recovers military spy plane stuck in Kaneohe Bay for almost 2 weeks
Hawaii News Now ^ | December 3, 2023 | HNN Staff

Posted on 12/04/2023 4:38:12 AM PST by Jyotishi

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To: Fresh Wind

WHY would a P-3 land at Bagram? WHAT mission(s) would it have in that AO?


61 posted on 12/04/2023 9:25:03 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: al_c
Does the Navy train female pilots any differently than male pilots?

Given that the US military has both written and unwritten double standards for men and women in many areas, my guess is yes.

I know that there were multiple standards for women, minorities, and politically connected trainees when I went through USAF pilot training in the early 1990's

62 posted on 12/04/2023 9:25:24 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Jyotishi

UPDATE: a USN spokesperson stated the aircraft was only lightly damaged and should return to service.

See near the end of this Navy Times article: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/12/04/navy-raises-crashed-p-8a-poseidon-aircraft-from-hawaiis-kaneohe-bay/

The USN was apparently very concerned about damage to the coral reef.


63 posted on 12/04/2023 9:29:54 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Reno89519
" And even if it was a woman pilot or crew, how does this have bearing on the accident. You are criticizing Americam military service members for what is otherwise an apparent sexual bias against women in the service."

See, there's your problem. You people don't know "what a woman is". You think that just "claiming" to be a woman, qualifies a person for any job.

Why don't you and Ms Mulvaney go have a few "Bud Lights"; relax and "unwind".


64 posted on 12/04/2023 9:48:23 AM PST by guest7
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To: AFret.

Real GIBS have hash marks on their skivies, just like pilots.

Most of the time they are pilot-induced.


65 posted on 12/04/2023 10:10:55 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Jyotishi

and all it’s electronics are junk... right?


66 posted on 12/04/2023 10:11:41 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: shotgun

Air Force pilots are notorious for using all of the available runway.

Navy pilots not so much.


67 posted on 12/04/2023 10:16:24 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Jyotishi

How the pilot pees is irrelevant. Either way, dumping the bus into the bay is the sort of thing that turns up in your OER. Good thing is that nobody got killed.


68 posted on 12/04/2023 10:29:31 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Laslo Fripp

We were doing some work near the runway and had to displace the threshold by about 1,000 feet for their own safety. Their response was to roll out 4- F15’s across the runway, throttled up and blew our sandbags and marks off the runway. They were pissed. Then they decided to play chicken with our heavy equipment by coming in way to low.

The Airport manager lost it and laid into the commanding officer and they knocked that crap off.


69 posted on 12/04/2023 11:05:38 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Blueflag

The EP-3C is also an AWACS plane (Airborne Warning and Control System). It detects other airborne threats, AA missile launches, etc.


70 posted on 12/04/2023 11:14:45 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: guest7

There should be a rule on the site not to post such obscene pictures, how do you undo this after you have seen them?


71 posted on 12/04/2023 11:20:00 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: MeganC
Did I trigger you?

Hardly. I was systems crew (not flight crew) on C-130s a few decades back. Our flight crews were mostly male, but not all. Everyone was fully competent and well-trained for the job they did, but s*** still happened on occasion.

If standards were lowered to accommodate women, then it's an issue we should all be concerned with. However, there are contradictory reports on the makeup of the flight crew, which, based on what I can find on the P-8, would be two people (pilot, co-pilot/navigator). The rest of the crew would be systems crew (7 there) and not responsible for the operation of the aircraft.

72 posted on 12/04/2023 12:25:07 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: moovova
He has his wings. He’s a pilot.

His blurb aside, having wings doesn't make one a pilot. At least not when I was in the USAF, not sure about Navy. I had wings and I was enlisted weapons system crew in the back.

73 posted on 12/04/2023 12:30:56 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: ro_dreaming

Never knew that. Thanks.


74 posted on 12/04/2023 1:40:23 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Blueflag

You’re welcome.

CTT, 1988-1992


75 posted on 12/04/2023 4:28:13 PM PST by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: guest7

LOLOL!


76 posted on 12/05/2023 5:25:41 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: Blueflag

From your link:

“The Boeing-made plane is assigned to Patrol Squadron 4 stationed at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island in Washington state. A separate crew from Whidbey Island has deployed to Hawaii to take over the squadron’s patrol missions near Hawaii.”

Is this saying that the crew of the damaged aircraft has been grounded?


77 posted on 12/05/2023 5:33:00 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Soros on assisting the Nazis with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made.")
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To: Fresh Wind

Not aware of current policy, but i believe one can correctly infer they are administratively grounded for now, pending the investigation.


78 posted on 12/05/2023 7:45:47 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Blueflag

Maybe they can mount it outside the Big House at University of Michigan...


79 posted on 12/08/2023 7:30:42 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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