Posted on 11/30/2023 11:28:52 AM PST by Red Badger
Political Junkie Too wrote: “I’m curious...”
I’m curious about those continuously posting one anti-vaxxer thread after another. Do they spend their days surfing the web looking for articles that support their anti-vaxxer viewpoints. Every day. Same posters. Same anti-vaxxer narratives.
You do realize that we have people who do the same thing for regular news of the day, too, right? Same people, same breaking news. Are you complaining about them, too?
I just asked about your searching tips. So you're not sharing?
-PJ
They are scouring external sites and posting news articles from other sources.
You are popping onto those threads here at FR, which makes it different.
So I'm asking, what's your secret? How do you quickly find these posts? What's the trick, so I can look for articles that interest me, too?
FRiends, share. Are you a FRiend?
-PJ
grey_whiskers wrote: “Your article said (verbatim cut and paste) “Over 20 years, there were 1,102 deaths in these student athletes, with sudden cardiac death being the cause in 143 cases.””
grey_whiskers wrote: “The other articles are talking about sudden deaths including non-NCAA ( high school and professional): and not all of those would show up on the sources your $hot$hill puff piece relied on.”
You mean like these bogus lists and articles:
“Both Wheeler and Gold cited a letter to the editor published in the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology that was co-authored by Dr. Peter McCullough, another prominent purveyor of COVID-19 misinformation. Although its publication may give the letter a veneer of legitimacy, the letter did not include any original research, as suggested by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson. Rather, it relied upon an arbitrary list of athlete deaths maintained on an anonymous website that we wrote about shortly after it appeared online in late 2021.”
“As we explained before, the list includes students, professionals, amateurs, coaches and retirees. It includes people who died by suicide, car crash and drug overdose.”
“The list does not — in nearly all cases — include the vaccination status of the deceased, let alone prove any causal relationship between vaccines and the deaths. In fact, as we’ve previously reported, some of the deaths initially listed happened before the vaccines had even become available to the age category for the person listed.””
“Wheeler and Gold, though, each shared an image that highlighted a portion of the letter comparing the number of deaths listed on the anonymous website with the number of sudden cardiac deaths among athletes that had appeared in academic literature over a 38-year period as compiled in a 2006 paper. The two figures reflect different criteria. One number is very broad and includes anyone with a passing relationship to sports who died for any reason since 2021, while the other is conspicuously narrow and includes only the deaths of athletes that were analyzed in English-language academic research papers.”
Factcheck.org, a liberal bastion, on quoted as authoritative and disposative on FR.
Troll.
Roll us some more brown boulders, Dung Beetle.
My brother got all the recommended shots and promptly got a bad case of Covid.
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Same with my sister, initial shot and covid. Later on the booster and covid again. No more for sis and her real name is``````Karen.
I’ve read your link.
Smears, sloppy writing, character assassination, and innuendo, while talking as though it is, SCIENCE!™
Your authoritative source says it monitors high school and college athletes: and from that, states authoritatively that there is no rise in deaths — even among groups it has not studied.
Which by definition is not, and cannot be SCIENTIFIC!™ despite their wanking off over wearing white lab coats. And one of the authors’being associated with the Seattle Seahawks lends an emotional air of authority without actually doing anything.
Nice try, but your attempt findrae yourself up to someone else’s full height and shooting “SCIENCE!™” only reveals the desperation of those paying you.
(The truth is all of these lists are applied sociology: the supposed trump card that one of the athletes on the list initially blamed the clot shots, but then recanted, could just as easily be the result of management putting pressure on him to recant, as his renouncing a supposedly hysterical claim: such hysteria being implied without being stated.)
How many young athletes died of heart attacks that weren’t vaccinate???
None of this, pro or con, is based on rigorous analysis. The government could collect the data to give us a clear answer, but government has studiously avoided collecting and disclosing the data. One would think that the government, having given us the hard sell on the vaccines, would jump at the chance to demonstrate that the vaccines are not the cause, but apparently government does not have confidence in that outcome.
We also note that many posts in Facebook, Instagram, twitter, forums and news stories are being removed. So now we are receiving some messages saying there is no proof of the event or of vaccination status. That is partly because this information is being hidden.
More people are writing to tell us that in many cases, we didn’t mention a person’s vaccination status. There is a good reason for that. While everyone thought it was great marketing for them and a way of virtue-signalling, they bragged about their vaccination status. Now, none of the clubs want to reveal this information. None of their sponsors want to reveal it. The government doesn’t want it. Insurance companies aren’t asking for it. The players have been told not to reveal it. Most of the players’ relatives will not mention it. None of the media are asking this question. So what should we do? Stop this now? No, we will collect as much information as we can, while it is still available, because eventually, more information will come out, and we will be here to put it together.
Will it mean anything? We don’t know. What we do know is that there is a concerted world-wide effort to make this information go away, so that fact alone tells us it must be collected, investigated and saved so other researchers can look at it to see if there are any useful patterns. This may be one of the understatements of the century
In other words, they are *preserving evidence*.
Unlike the clot-shot pushers, who have managed to get some doctors/scientists locked out of their labs, and have threatened others with arrest if they attempt to chemically analyze the contents of the clot shots, from left over vials whose provenance/chain of custody is intact.
That is *not* science (letting the chips fall where they may) but of control.
Yhe sources you pull from, typically use the words like "baseless" and "unfounded" and "misinformation" and "influencers".
This is not the language of science, but of a Fascist(*) propaganda push.
I upped my game. Now up yours!
(*) literally, business acting at the behest of the state to advance state goals.
They are all part of the Media-Government-Military-LEO Complex.................
bttt
The ‘government’ has corrupted all the ‘data’ intentionally so that an honest, scientific, un-biased study is not possible.......................
First of all, name calling only makes you look silly.
grey_whiskers wrote: “We also note that many posts in Facebook, Instagram, twitter, forums and news stories are being removed. So now we are receiving some messages saying there is no proof of the event or of vaccination status. That is partly because this information is being hidden.”
No, the information isn’t being hidden. These events never happened and sometimes when they did happen they preceeded the vaccines. And, it’s been shown multiple times that articles such as this are only speculating on vaccination status.
grey_whiskers wrote: “Unlike the clot-shot pushers, who have managed to get some doctors/scientists locked out of their labs, and have threatened others with arrest if they attempt to chemically analyze the contents of the clot shots, from left over vials whose provenance/chain of custody is intact.”
You are truly confused. The analysis wasn’t made on “...left over vials whose provenance/chain of custody is intact”
grey_whiskers wrote: “Yhe sources you pull from, typically use the words like “baseless” and “unfounded” and “misinformation” and “influencers”. This is not the language of science, but of a Fascist(*) propaganda push.”
Your sources are notably lacking the language of science.
rey_whiskers wrote: “Nice try, but your attempt findrae yourself up to someone else’s full height and shooting “SCIENCE!™” only reveals the desperation of those paying you.”
When you make claims such as “Smears, sloppy writing, character assassination, and innuendo, while talking as though it is, SCIENCE!™” instead of refuting with facts, you’re the desperate one.
Not a bit.
Try reading an actual scientific paper, it is very dry and dawdusty: and the terms “influencer” and “misinformation” are not used.
Your writers are performing psy-ops and calling it science.
grey_whiskers wrote: “Try reading an actual scientific paper, it is very dry and dawdusty: and the terms “influencer” and “misinformation” are not used. Your writers are performing psy-ops and calling it science.”
That doesn’t change the facts. The articles you’re defending aren’t even close to being scientific.
“SCIENCE!™” .ne. true.
grey_whiskers wrote: ““SCIENCE!™” .ne. true.”
Are you OK?
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