Apparently DeSanctimonious is so desperate he is now down to throwing issues against the wall to see which one sticks.
Nevermind what he is proposing is blatantly anti 1st Amendment and confusing freedom of speech with carrying out Policy.
Not sure you can do this with a government position
To: SoConPubbie
He tried to use the Israel attacks to go at Trump. Discusting.
2 posted on
11/01/2023 7:21:21 AM PDT by
cowboyusa
(YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
To: SoConPubbie
Central Socialist Government manpower could be reduced by 65 % and the equipment torn out and sold. Use the buildings to store homeless people. Forget about jousing the illegal migrunts....they must be kicked out and Trump is the guy who can do it.
3 posted on
11/01/2023 7:23:35 AM PDT by
ABStrauss
(I miss Rush! )
To: SoConPubbie
More over those people are civil service workers. He can’t do jack
4 posted on
11/01/2023 7:27:05 AM PDT by
Nifster
( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
To: SoConPubbie
It appears that this latest “crisis” is being used to crush freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of assembly. Those who had previously opposed such assaults on our freedoms are getting on board this time because this involves Israel. But, once this “crisis” is over the suppression won’t be. Another one will pop up and once again freedom of speech, association, or assembly will be the primary victim.
5 posted on
11/01/2023 7:28:11 AM PDT by
euram
(allALL)
To: SoConPubbie; All
Woeking to get Niki Haley nominated I see...
6 posted on
11/01/2023 7:28:58 AM PDT by
wiseprince
(Me)
To: SoConPubbie
8 posted on
11/01/2023 7:32:07 AM PDT by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
To: SoConPubbie
This guy would do far better going back to Florida and being a really good Governor. This effort of moving up to POTUS was an ill conceived notion at this time.
9 posted on
11/01/2023 7:34:53 AM PDT by
dforest
To: SoConPubbie
Big talk. He would quickly be made aware of civil service protections and EEO rules. Disagreeing with the boss is not “cause”...
Dumbass...
10 posted on
11/01/2023 7:37:50 AM PDT by
bigbob
To: SoConPubbie
If they do not like the policy, they should resign.
11 posted on
11/01/2023 7:40:37 AM PDT by
JimRed
To: SoConPubbie
Is he going to make them sign loyalty oaths?
To: SoConPubbie
If this is the case, then Vindman should have been fired and prosecuted.
14 posted on
11/01/2023 7:47:01 AM PDT by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
To: SoConPubbie
Apparently DeSanctimonious is so desperate he is now down to throwing issues against the wall to see which one sticks.
Nevermind what he is proposing is blatantly anti 1st Amendment and confusing freedom of speech with carrying out Policy.
Not sure you can do this with a government position
It would be his State Department. He could do as he wished.
15 posted on
11/01/2023 7:50:18 AM PDT by
Responsibility2nd
(A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
To: SoConPubbie
RE: “They have no right to contradict policy”
Let’s amend that a little — They DO have the right to contradict policy ( they won’t be jailed or prosecuted for that ). That’s protected by our first amendment.
But they sure as hell don’t have the right to keep their job. They can always find work in places that support their political beliefs.
To: SoConPubbie
Well, if DeSantis doesn’t have a hurricane to raise his staff against, he has to go to a lower level to unleash.
19 posted on
11/01/2023 8:16:53 AM PDT by
odawg
To: SoConPubbie
Gotta kiss the ring, how pathetic
To: SoConPubbie
Nevermind what he is proposing is blatantly anti 1st AmendmentThat's not true at all. You can get bounced from the military for saying all sorts of things. When you are serving in an official capacity there ARE things you can't say without consequences.
If your speech is determined to "disrupt your employer's interest in an efficient workplace", it is not 1A protected.
This is far from blatant. I honestly don't know how a court would rule. But there is something called the
Pickering Balancing Test that is normally considered.
The Pickering test is a balancing inquiry pitting “the interests of the [public employee], as a citizen” against “the interest of the State, as an employer, in promoting the efficiency of the public services it performs through its employees.”[81] While employees have a substantial interest in “speak[ing] out freely . . . without fear of retaliatory dismissal,”[82] this interest must be weighed against the government’s interest in “effective and efficient fulfillment of its responsibilities to the public.” My interpretation of the test is that this speech is NOT protected as it goes against “effective and efficient fulfillment of its responsibilities to the public.”
To: SoConPubbie
Good job DeSantis, stay in the race and the nomination will be yours and MAGA will join you to forge a great victory in 2024. Rump with his small hands will probably be locked up by that time...Funny Rump locked up and Hillary running free.The worm has turned it would seem
25 posted on
11/01/2023 8:37:22 AM PDT by
wild74
To: SoConPubbie
If protected speech occurs out of the office, he is wrong. OTOHand, if in the office or using office equipment, you are wrong.
Working for anyone is volunteering for limits to what you can say and where.
28 posted on
11/01/2023 8:52:07 AM PDT by
bobbo666
(Baizuo, )
To: SoConPubbie
“I would show them the door. “
But on a Life Liberty and Levin before Desantis was running for President, but when he was on the book tour, Levin raised that you couldn’t just fire these people. They make it very difficult and there are all kinds of laws and protections and appeals when discussing firing civil servants like Fauci and all the rest. Desantis nodded and said yeah, that’s the problem, you can’t fire them. Nice try, DeSanctus.
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