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Judge lashes out at Trump, threatens prison, after apparent breach of gag order
CBS News ^ | OCTOBER 20, 2023 / 12:25 PM | GRAHAM KATES

Posted on 10/20/2023 9:38:07 AM PDT by Red Badger

New York — The judge in former President Donald Trump's civil fraud trial lashed out at him this morning for failing to remove from his campaign website a derogatory post about the judge's clerk.

The post, which was spotted Thursday by liberal PAC website MeidasTouch, was a duplicate of one posted to Trump's social media site on Oct. 3, and deleted soon after New York Judge Arthur Engoron issued a limited gag order, barring Trump from posting or speaking publicly about the judge's staff.

The campaign replication of the deleted post has since also been removed, but Engoron appeared quite angry Friday.

He asked Trump's lawyers why he shouldn't impose "serious" sanctions, "including financial sanctions" "or possibly imprisoning him."

Trump attorney Christopher Kise apologized and said it was an errant oversight, arguing that it was "truly inadvertent," due to the presidential campaign's "machinery" replicating the post on its website. Kise said there haven't been any subsequent postings about the clerk or other court staff.

Kise said there haven't been any subsequent postings about the clerk or other court staff.

Engoron didn't immediately seem swayed. Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine," Engoron told him.

Engoron did not say if Trump will face sanctions, but that he was taking Kise's defense under advisement.

Later, after a mid-morning break, Kise addressed the removed post again. He said the post was only highlighted by the campaign to an email list of roughly 25,810 people who work in media, and that ultimately a fraction of that number visited the post on the campaign website.

"Between Oct. 3 and Oct. 19, there were a little over 114 million visitors to the campaign website. Only 3,701 viewed – they're called unique views – viewed the post. That would include anyone that received the email," Kise said.

"Well, you and I are both becoming more tech savvy," Engoron replied.

A spokesperson for the campaign did not reply to a request for comment.

Tensions have been high this week in the case, in which Trump, his adult sons and The Trump Organization are accused of overvaluing Trump's properties and net worth in an alleged scheme to get favorable loans and insurance that benefited them at least $250 million.

The judge issued a ruling last month finding that Trump and his company "repeatedly" violated state fraud law. Trump and the other defendants have all denied wrongdoing in the case. Their attorneys have argued that what James' office calls fraud were subjective valuations of property and wealth.

On Thursday, an attorney for New York Attorney General Letitia James could be heard during a sidebar calling Kise "rude."

The day before, two of James' attorneys yelled at Kise when he said they didn't care about a witness's right against self incrimination.

That altercation played out in front of Trump, who is not required to attend the trial, but did so on Tuesday and Wednesday. Moments before James' attorneys yelled at Kise, they had asked Engoron to admonish Trump, saying he was intimidating the witness, loudly expressing frustration at testimony, shaking his head back and forth and throwing his hands in the air.

Engoron obliged, looking toward Trump's team and saying, "I 'll ask everyone to be quiet while the witness is testifying."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arrestengoron; arthurengoron; bidensfault; christopherkise; civilrights; efftrump; electioninterference; electionracketeering; engoron; freespeech; gagorder; lawfare; trump; trumpnytrial; trumppersecution; trumpsux; unfitforthebench
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1 posted on 10/20/2023 9:38:07 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Let her rage on. In her hysteria she’ll make herself look worse.


2 posted on 10/20/2023 9:39:54 AM PDT by dragonblustar (You best start believing in Bible prophecies, you’re in one.)
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To: dragonblustar

Him.....................


3 posted on 10/20/2023 9:40:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

This is America! Only commies and Nazis is “gag” orders.


4 posted on 10/20/2023 9:40:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Palestinians are not "refugeez". They are muslim terrorists. Remember 9/11/2001.)
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To: Red Badger

Will it take sanction for Trump to get this fag order to the appeals court?

Or is that already in motion.?


5 posted on 10/20/2023 9:42:00 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Red Badger

the Judge is the one that should be deposed and gagged. And then jailed for election racketeering and interference.


6 posted on 10/20/2023 9:42:13 AM PDT by patriot torch (..)
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To: Red Badger

Hey Judge, you are an embarrassment. Just keep talking.


7 posted on 10/20/2023 9:42:21 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: digger48

Unfortunate misspelling, there


8 posted on 10/20/2023 9:43:34 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Red Badger

Jail him. They are going to do so anyhow. These people are demons.


9 posted on 10/20/2023 9:44:04 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: Red Badger

Didn’t somebody shoot a judge - where - Maryland?


10 posted on 10/20/2023 9:44:37 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: Red Badger

Judge Arthur Engoron is dickless so “her” is probably appropriate.


11 posted on 10/20/2023 9:45:11 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Red Badger

‘...or failing to remove from his campaign website a derogatory post about the judge’s clerk.’

The judge wants Trump to un-say something he previously posted?


12 posted on 10/20/2023 9:45:38 AM PDT by farmguy ( )
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To: Red Badger

No laws (even fake judicial lawmaking) ex post facto.

She’s unfit for the bench, always has been, always will be.

MeidasTouch is getting pushed hard by YouTube, btw.


13 posted on 10/20/2023 9:46:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Red Badger

Why hasn’t this judge been hit with a writ of prohibition already? She is need of discipline from a superior court. That writ exists for a reason.


14 posted on 10/20/2023 9:47:23 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: SunkenCiv

The NY judge is a HE.

The Georgia judge is a SHE...............


15 posted on 10/20/2023 9:47:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Do it! Put him in jail. Make it even more clear what’s been going on to more people.


16 posted on 10/20/2023 9:47:53 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

Woody Harrelson’s daddy killed a Federal Judge here in Texas.


17 posted on 10/20/2023 9:49:38 AM PDT by waterhill (I Believe!)
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To: Red Badger

Tell the commie bitch to get over herself..tell the DA to stop leaking everything they feel like it to their buddies in the commie press than we can talk


18 posted on 10/20/2023 9:50:14 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red Badger

The anger from this “judge” shows that it is all about power and feelings.

Justice plays no part.

We are not a nation of laws.

We are a nation of petty, tyrannical Democrat lawyers.


19 posted on 10/20/2023 9:50:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Red Badger

Sorry, I thought gender was a matter of opinion. ;^)


20 posted on 10/20/2023 9:50:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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