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There Is No Such Thing As 'Palestinians'
PJ Media ^ | 10.14.2023 | RABBI MICHAEL BARCLAY

Posted on 10/15/2023 3:48:59 PM PDT by Dr. Marten

The patterns of the anti-Semitic/Marxist/”Palestinian”/LGBTQ/BLM/hate-filled alliance are nothing if not predictable. After expressing shock and dismay that their Palestinian friends in Gaza specifically targeted civilians, in under a week, they have quickly shifted back to their repeated old rhetoric. They are now blaming Israel for the horrific attacks from Hamas, calling Israel’s counter-attacks on Hamas a “terrorist siege,” blitzing the media with images of wounded from Gaza, and attacking Israel in all ways as an ‘apartheid state’ and, as Ocasio Cortez defined Israel, a nation devoted to “ethnic cleansing”.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; middleeast; palestine; palestinkians; religion
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To: BipolarBob

You’re wrong. There is no such thing as Palestine. Read about the Balfour Agreement. You’ll notice that no one else wants them.


21 posted on 10/15/2023 4:24:01 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: piytar

Jordan and Syria have killed more ‘Palestinians’ than Israel ever will. Israel is the only nation that has provided them a safe haven. If Israel didn’t exist they’d have been wiped out. The countries calling for a Palestinian state would spit in your face if you’d say the Kurds deserve one too.


22 posted on 10/15/2023 4:28:31 PM PDT by Lancdawg
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To: BipolarBob

Palestine is an area not an ethnicity or race.


Like Indiana, or Texas.


23 posted on 10/15/2023 4:34:18 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: Dr. Marten

The Romans would disagree with that, having renamed the area Palestina after they destroyed Judea. That said, the other posters are correct about the fakeness of the Palestinian ethnic designation. Both parties in the US have been complicit for 50 years in fostering this lie. The “Palestininians” are ethnically identical to the other Arabs in the region. That the Arabs are called Iraqi or Syrian or Saudi or Lebanese is a function of the arbitrary division of the area into nation states.

A few Jews were always there and Jerusalem has had a majority Jewish population since 1800. Both sides have a claim, though only one side has been successful in putting the land to productive use. A two state solution is the answer…. And the second state created was Jordan. Ignoring that is yet another facet of the decor of the western ruling elites


24 posted on 10/15/2023 4:41:52 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Sure, and they certainly identify as a hoosier or texan, first. That's the nature of identity and culture. Tons of texans live in other areas and self identify as texan.
25 posted on 10/15/2023 4:42:59 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Vendome

No archeological digs

No artifacts>>>. And what grows in their country is hate and weeds. Next door Israel grows seeds for burpee, fruit for the world and computer software, etc.


26 posted on 10/15/2023 4:49:56 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Telepathic Intruder

There were plenty of Canaanite tribes. Philistines, Phoenicians, Moabites, Ammonites and other peoples lived in the area, and borders changed with time. Jews became Christians and Muslims. Not all of the Palestinians came from Lebanon or Syria.


27 posted on 10/15/2023 4:50:01 PM PDT by x
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To: Dr. Marten

Maybe Palestinian is their gender?


28 posted on 10/15/2023 5:01:10 PM PDT by No Party Affiliation
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To: BipolarBob

The common thread is.....93% are Sunni Muslims


29 posted on 10/15/2023 5:01:30 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: x

Of course there were some non-Jews who have been living there for a very long time as well. But the modern colloquial term form “Palestinian” generally refers to Arabs who are relatively recent arrivals. None of them were thrown out of modern Israel when it was established in 1948, however, and they’re still living there today.


30 posted on 10/15/2023 5:01:44 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Dr. Marten

If you want to shut down a lib spouting off about things they know nothing about, tell them firmly exactly that: There’s no such thing as a palestinian.

It’s incredibly effective. Been doing it for years.


31 posted on 10/15/2023 5:12:24 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BipolarBob

GO TO www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4189573/posts

Go to comment #14.

Print it out & USE IT when others are spouting off.


32 posted on 10/15/2023 5:15:54 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Dr. Marten
Over 4,000 years ago, there were small tribes living in Canaan, such as Moabites, Amalekites, etc. There was no Palestine of people or land. Then around 3,200 years ago, the 12 tribes of Israel, united under King Saul into the first kingdom in the region, a Jewish theocracy called “Israel.” That split into the kingdoms of Judah and Israel (both Jewish), which were conquered by the Babylonian empire a little over 2,500 years ago. This became the Persian Empire, which was defeated by Alexander the Great, and Israel was controlled by the Greeks.
The Greeks were defeated by the Hasmoneans, and Israel once again became a Jewish state about 2,200 years ago. The Hasmoneans were beaten by the Romans, and there followed a series of kingdoms that controlled Israel: Byzantine, Sassanid, Ummayad, Frankish, Christian, and eventually the Mamluk Dynasty, which controlled the region in the 13th-16th centuries. This is the first time there is a governmental Muslim presence in Israel, but again, it is not related to Palestine as a people or nation at all. The Mamluks ultimately were absorbed into the Ottoman Empire, which controlled the region until it was defeated by the British in the 20th century. Nowhere in this 3,000-year history does Palestine or Palestinians exist or even get discussed. The British created a mandate called “Palestine” on July 24, 1922, which was the first mention of the word in thousands of years.
But as for the last sentence, the etymology should be explained. WP informs (which is only as good as its references, which the good OP article lacks) The term "Palestine" first appeared in the 5th century BCE when the ancient Greek historian Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7] Herodotus provides the first historical reference clearly denoting a wider region than biblical Philistia, as he applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean Mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[8][9][10][11] Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[12] There is not currently evidence of the name on any Hellenistic coin or inscription.[13]

In the early 2nd century CE, the term "Syria Palaestina"[a] (literally, "Palestinian Syria"[14][15]) was given to the Roman province of Judaea either before or after the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

I add that what the radical Left charges is that Israel is an illegal occupier (which seems to at least be inferred by the two-state advocates, including Putin), denying them full ownership of their historical land (which was mostly cleansed of a very wicked nation (t (though DNA finds more than 90 percent of the genetic ancestry of modern Lebanese being derived from ancient Canaanites, yet genes are not the same as culture, which can radically evolve over the years while genes can remain unchanged), and later lost to conquerors due to Israel's infidelity to God, but from what I see, thru a succession of conquerors part of their land was given back to the Jews, who then gained more of it (whole giving back almost all the land it controlled after Islamic wars) due to the militant intolerance of Muslim squatters to a Jewish state. Who had no historical right to their militant intolerance to the Jewish state.

33 posted on 10/15/2023 5:19:05 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Dr. Marten
The British created a mandate called “Palestine” on July 24, 1922, which was the first mention of the word in thousands of years.

It is not remotely possible that the rabbi author is ignorant of the Balfour Declaration. Palestine, as an entity, pre-existed the mandate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

The BALFOUR DECLARATION of 1917

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country”.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
/s/ Arthur James Balfour

The Balfour Declaration eventually metastasized into the United Nations creation of the Jewish and Palestinian states.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-187751/

Future government of Palestine – GA debate – Verbatim record HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOURTH PLENARY MEETING

Held in the General Assembly Hall at Flushing Meadow, New York, on Wednesday,

26 November 1947, at 11 a.m.

President: Mr. O. ARANHA (Brazil)

123. Palestinian question: report of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question (document A/516)

[...]

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-178646/

Palestine question/Future government/Partition plan – Ad Hoc Cttee report, recommendations

REPORT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION

Rapporteur: Mr. Thor THORS (Iceland)

1. The General Assembly, at its ninetieth meeting held on 23 September 1947, established an Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question, to which it referred the following items:

(a) Question of Palestine: item proposed by the United Kingdom (document A/286);

(b) Report of the Special Committee on Palestine (A/364);

(c) Termination of the Mandate over Palestine and the recognition of its independence as one State: item proposed by Saudi Arabia and by Iraq (A/317 and A/328).

[...]


34 posted on 10/15/2023 5:27:17 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: BipolarBob
"Palestine is an area not an ethnicity or race."

I read the same - from Jewish sources, no less.

Those sources say Palestine was sort of a nickname given to the area, the same way we call a section of the U.S. "the Midwest."

IIRC, the Greeks and, later, the Romans were the first to call that area Palestine, and the area was inhabited by the Jewish people in Roman times.

35 posted on 10/15/2023 5:29:38 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Dr. Marten

This is an incredible tired trope. Whatever you call them, they are at least humans. I could not be a stronger supporter of Israel, but these articles are essentially saying that there were no Arabs living on the land that is now Israel in 1946, in a place then called Palestine. There were. Some of them left willingly expecting correctly that there would be a war, but incorrectly expecting that the Arab states would win it. Some were driven out of their homes by the fledgling Israeli military forces. Either way, they do exist, and if they would be willing to make peace with Israel, they could have nice lives in the West Bank.


36 posted on 10/15/2023 5:40:04 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Plenty of Arabs live in Israel and get along just fine with the Jews there. It’s the best place in the Middle East for an Arab to live, and it isn’t even close.


37 posted on 10/15/2023 5:41:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: piytar

So what are we calling these vermin?


38 posted on 10/15/2023 5:43:15 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: ridesthemiles

The Romans the renamed the province of Judea to Syria Palaestina


39 posted on 10/15/2023 6:16:53 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Dr. Marten

Technically Jordanians, former Jordanians, or descendants of such.

Or just terrorists.


40 posted on 10/15/2023 6:24:13 PM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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