Posted on 10/15/2023 3:48:59 PM PDT by Dr. Marten
You’re wrong. There is no such thing as Palestine. Read about the Balfour Agreement. You’ll notice that no one else wants them.
Jordan and Syria have killed more ‘Palestinians’ than Israel ever will. Israel is the only nation that has provided them a safe haven. If Israel didn’t exist they’d have been wiped out. The countries calling for a Palestinian state would spit in your face if you’d say the Kurds deserve one too.
Palestine is an area not an ethnicity or race.
The Romans would disagree with that, having renamed the area Palestina after they destroyed Judea. That said, the other posters are correct about the fakeness of the Palestinian ethnic designation. Both parties in the US have been complicit for 50 years in fostering this lie. The “Palestininians” are ethnically identical to the other Arabs in the region. That the Arabs are called Iraqi or Syrian or Saudi or Lebanese is a function of the arbitrary division of the area into nation states.
A few Jews were always there and Jerusalem has had a majority Jewish population since 1800. Both sides have a claim, though only one side has been successful in putting the land to productive use. A two state solution is the answer…. And the second state created was Jordan. Ignoring that is yet another facet of the decor of the western ruling elites
No archeological digs
No artifacts>>>. And what grows in their country is hate and weeds. Next door Israel grows seeds for burpee, fruit for the world and computer software, etc.
There were plenty of Canaanite tribes. Philistines, Phoenicians, Moabites, Ammonites and other peoples lived in the area, and borders changed with time. Jews became Christians and Muslims. Not all of the Palestinians came from Lebanon or Syria.
Maybe Palestinian is their gender?
The common thread is.....93% are Sunni Muslims
Of course there were some non-Jews who have been living there for a very long time as well. But the modern colloquial term form “Palestinian” generally refers to Arabs who are relatively recent arrivals. None of them were thrown out of modern Israel when it was established in 1948, however, and they’re still living there today.
If you want to shut down a lib spouting off about things they know nothing about, tell them firmly exactly that: There’s no such thing as a palestinian.
It’s incredibly effective. Been doing it for years.
GO TO www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4189573/posts
Go to comment #14.
Print it out & USE IT when others are spouting off.
Over 4,000 years ago, there were small tribes living in Canaan, such as Moabites, Amalekites, etc. There was no Palestine of people or land. Then around 3,200 years ago, the 12 tribes of Israel, united under King Saul into the first kingdom in the region, a Jewish theocracy called “Israel.” That split into the kingdoms of Judah and Israel (both Jewish), which were conquered by the Babylonian empire a little over 2,500 years ago. This became the Persian Empire, which was defeated by Alexander the Great, and Israel was controlled by the Greeks.
The Greeks were defeated by the Hasmoneans, and Israel once again became a Jewish state about 2,200 years ago. The Hasmoneans were beaten by the Romans, and there followed a series of kingdoms that controlled Israel: Byzantine, Sassanid, Ummayad, Frankish, Christian, and eventually the Mamluk Dynasty, which controlled the region in the 13th-16th centuries. This is the first time there is a governmental Muslim presence in Israel, but again, it is not related to Palestine as a people or nation at all. The Mamluks ultimately were absorbed into the Ottoman Empire, which controlled the region until it was defeated by the British in the 20th century. Nowhere in this 3,000-year history does Palestine or Palestinians exist or even get discussed. The British created a mandate called “Palestine” on July 24, 1922, which was the first mention of the word in thousands of years.But as for the last sentence, the etymology should be explained. WP informs (which is only as good as its references, which the good OP article lacks) The term "Palestine" first appeared in the 5th century BCE when the ancient Greek historian Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7] Herodotus provides the first historical reference clearly denoting a wider region than biblical Philistia, as he applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean Mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[8][9][10][11] Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[12] There is not currently evidence of the name on any Hellenistic coin or inscription.[13]
In the early 2nd century CE, the term "Syria Palaestina"[a] (literally, "Palestinian Syria"[14][15]) was given to the Roman province of Judaea either before or after the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine
I add that what the radical Left charges is that Israel is an illegal occupier (which seems to at least be inferred by the two-state advocates, including Putin), denying them full ownership of their historical land (which was mostly cleansed of a very wicked nation (t (though DNA finds more than 90 percent of the genetic ancestry of modern Lebanese being derived from ancient Canaanites, yet genes are not the same as culture, which can radically evolve over the years while genes can remain unchanged), and later lost to conquerors due to Israel's infidelity to God, but from what I see, thru a succession of conquerors part of their land was given back to the Jews, who then gained more of it (whole giving back almost all the land it controlled after Islamic wars) due to the militant intolerance of Muslim squatters to a Jewish state. Who had no historical right to their militant intolerance to the Jewish state.
The British created a mandate called “Palestine” on July 24, 1922, which was the first mention of the word in thousands of years.
It is not remotely possible that the rabbi author is ignorant of the Balfour Declaration. Palestine, as an entity, pre-existed the mandate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
The BALFOUR DECLARATION of 1917
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917.Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty’s Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country”.I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
/s/ Arthur James Balfour
The Balfour Declaration eventually metastasized into the United Nations creation of the Jewish and Palestinian states.
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-187751/
Future government of Palestine – GA debate – Verbatim record HUNDRED AND TWENTY-FOURTH PLENARY MEETINGHeld in the General Assembly Hall at Flushing Meadow, New York, on Wednesday,
26 November 1947, at 11 a.m.
President: Mr. O. ARANHA (Brazil)
123. Palestinian question: report of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question (document A/516)
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https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-178646/
Palestine question/Future government/Partition plan – Ad Hoc Cttee report, recommendationsREPORT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION
Rapporteur: Mr. Thor THORS (Iceland)
1. The General Assembly, at its ninetieth meeting held on 23 September 1947, established an Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question, to which it referred the following items:
(a) Question of Palestine: item proposed by the United Kingdom (document A/286);
(b) Report of the Special Committee on Palestine (A/364);
(c) Termination of the Mandate over Palestine and the recognition of its independence as one State: item proposed by Saudi Arabia and by Iraq (A/317 and A/328).
[...]
I read the same - from Jewish sources, no less.
Those sources say Palestine was sort of a nickname given to the area, the same way we call a section of the U.S. "the Midwest."
IIRC, the Greeks and, later, the Romans were the first to call that area Palestine, and the area was inhabited by the Jewish people in Roman times.
This is an incredible tired trope. Whatever you call them, they are at least humans. I could not be a stronger supporter of Israel, but these articles are essentially saying that there were no Arabs living on the land that is now Israel in 1946, in a place then called Palestine. There were. Some of them left willingly expecting correctly that there would be a war, but incorrectly expecting that the Arab states would win it. Some were driven out of their homes by the fledgling Israeli military forces. Either way, they do exist, and if they would be willing to make peace with Israel, they could have nice lives in the West Bank.
Plenty of Arabs live in Israel and get along just fine with the Jews there. It’s the best place in the Middle East for an Arab to live, and it isn’t even close.
So what are we calling these vermin?
The Romans the renamed the province of Judea to Syria Palaestina
Technically Jordanians, former Jordanians, or descendants of such.
Or just terrorists.
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