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Federal Court Asked to Address 14th Amendment Effort to Bar Trump [and 120 other Republicans]
Jonathan Turley ^ | October 13, 2023 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 10/13/2023 4:19:08 PM PDT by george76

Legal academics are divided on the new popular theory that former President Donald Trump can be removed from ballots under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. While I respect many of the academics who view this as a credible interpretation, I have long opposed it as textually and historically flawed. In addition to some exaggerated claims of precedent, I view the theory as one of the most dangerous in my lifetime.

One thing, however, we agree upon: it is time for the federal courts to rule on this theory to bring clarity to the election. That may now occur in West Virginia where Attorney General Patrick Morrisey wants a federal court to throw out a lawsuit attempting to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in the state. What is most striking about the filing is the accusation of judge-shopping by advocates like John Anthony Castro in seeking to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in the state.

I have previously addressed the constitutional basis for this claim. It is, in my view, wildly out of sync with the purpose of the amendment, which followed an actual rebellion, the Civil War.

The 14th Amendment bars those who took the oath and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.” It then adds that that disqualification can extend to those who have “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

The “disqualification clause” was written after the 39th Congress convened in December 1865 when many members were shocked to see Alexander Stephens, the Confederate vice president, waiting to take a seat with an array of other former Confederate senators and military officers.

Justice Edwin Reade of the North Carolina Supreme Court later explained, “[t]he idea [was] that one who had taken an oath to support the Constitution and violated it, ought to be excluded from taking it again.”

According to these experts, Jan. 6 was an “insurrection” and Trump gave “aid and comfort” to those who engaged in it by spreading election fraud claims and not immediately denouncing the violence.

Polls have shown that most of the public view Jan. 6 for what it was: a protest that became a riot. One year after the riot, CBS News mostly downplayed and ignored the result of its own poll showing that 76 percent viewed it for what it was, as a “protest gone too far.” The view that it was an actual “insurrection” was far less settled, with almost half rejecting the claim, a division breaking along partisan lines.

Nevertheless, Democrats have claimed that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from running because he supported an “insurrection or rebellion.”

They have argued that this long dormant clause can be used to block not just Trump but 120 Republicans in Congress from running for office.

The lawsuit could offer a long needed judicial review and an avenue to the Supreme Court for a final ruling. Yet, what was most notable was this paragraph in the filing on the motives and means used by Castro:

“Plaintiff John Anthony Castro filed this lawsuit as part of a multi-state litigation effort that he dubs “Operation Deadlock.” John Anthony Castro (@realJohnACastro), X (Sept. 20, 2023, 2:17 PM), https://bit.ly/48GyE9y. Castro’s supposed operation involves filing suit after suit— roughly two dozen so far—seeking to disqualify President Donald Trump from running for election again. Castro will then “sidelin[e] and neutraliz[e] the influence of conservative judges” by “nonsuit[ing] those cases” that are not assigned to “Obama-appointed or Clinton appointed judges.” Katherine Fung, Donald Trump’s Lawyers Get Stretched Even Thinner, NEWSWEEK (Sept. 19, 2023, 11:22 AM), https://bit.ly/3S2a25B; see, e.g., Notice of Dismissal, Castro v. Henderson, No. 2:23-cv-00617 (D. Utah Sept. 27, 2023), ECF No. 14 (Castro dismissing his suit after it was reassigned to a judge appointed by President Trump); but see, e.g., In re Fieger, No. 97-1359, 1999 WL 717991 (6th Cir. Sept. 10, 1999) (affirming sanctions against attorney who had “dismissed [his] cases so that he could select the judge”). Castro evidently hopes these efforts will “completely bankrupt [President Trump] by next summer.” John Anthony Castro (@realJohnACastro), X (Sept. 27, 2023, 8:40 PM), https://bit.ly/45gxpLq.”

Castro is running for the Republican presidential nomination. Recently, the Supreme Court refused to hear one of Castro’s cases.

Castro has been open about forum and judge shopping to get liberal, Democratic judges to rule against Trump. Castro tweeted:

“The fight is far from being over. We’re going to get the liberal 9th Circuit to kick Trump off the ballot in Montana, Idaho, Nevada, and Arizona. Coupled with the 1st Circuit kicking him off the Maine ballot, there’s ZERO path to 270. The Supreme Court can deny to hear the case but appellate courts cannot. I’m still pursuing decisions in the liberal appellate courts and there’s a full blown trial scheduled for October 20 in New Hampshire and a bench trial in Arizona on October 31.”

I tend to favor broad standing rules, but Castro’s open effort to secure review from liberal, Democratic judges should offend not only these jurists but most Americans. Castro received a J.D. from the University of New Mexico and LLM from Georgetown University.

Courts have universally denounced judge shopping. Most, like the federal court in northern Illinois, denounce the practice: “No one should be able to manipulate the assignment system in order to determine in advance which judge will get a case where the assignment is by lot.”

Obviously “forum shopping” does occur. Lawyers will seek to file in the most favorable jurisdiction, including prosecutors. Yet, I have never seen a lawyer openly discussing the manipulation of filings in search of liberal judges to achieve a particular result. The filing is accusing Castro of actually withdrawing lawsuits when he receives a judge who is not reliably liberal.

Castro must realize that he is insulting these liberal judges and making this already novel challenge even more difficult. However, it is an example of using cases to appeal to the court of public opinion. Castro knows that such raw political moves will thrill many in this age of rage.

For advocates of the 14th Amendment theory, Castro could not be a worse figure to move this claim into the courts. He adds a noxious means to a novel theory to bar Trump from ballots. Of course, this is all being done by advocates who claim that they are defending democracy but denying the ability of others to vote for one of the leading candidates for the presidency.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; absurd; cheating; donate2trump; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; election; electioninterference; fourteenthamendment; rigging; tampering
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1 posted on 10/13/2023 4:19:08 PM PDT by george76
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Democrats have claimed that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from running because he supported an “insurrection or rebellion.”

Has anyone been convicted of “insurrection or rebellion?”

2 posted on 10/13/2023 4:25:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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And Turley will still vote Democrat which enables what he his complaining about...


3 posted on 10/13/2023 4:26:35 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: george76

later


4 posted on 10/13/2023 4:35:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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Bkmk


5 posted on 10/13/2023 4:38:04 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Has anyone been convicted of “insurrection or rebellion?”


Good point, but likely irrelevant. Confederate officials and officers were not convicted of anything, with a few exceptions, but they were denied office via the 14th Amendment. Of course the whole idea that January 6th constituted an insurrection/rebellion is absurd. But we appear to be living in absurd times.


6 posted on 10/13/2023 4:43:29 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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Millions of people should sue big tech and dreck like Castro coincidentally in small claims court.

Claim civil rights violations and let them defend themselves all over GOD’s green earth.


7 posted on 10/13/2023 4:43:40 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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All these cases, including CO, need to be smacked down.

All this lawfare shows just how terrified the swamp is of Trump.


8 posted on 10/13/2023 4:46:07 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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Don’t care

Voting for him regardless


9 posted on 10/13/2023 4:51:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: george76

1st of all standing

2nd of all innocent until proven guilty

3rd of all, liberals are morons.


10 posted on 10/13/2023 4:53:49 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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They would need a trail resulting in such a finding in order to bar Trump.


11 posted on 10/13/2023 5:15:10 PM PDT by Jumper
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The 14th Amendment bars those who took the oath and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.” It then adds that that disqualification can extend to those who have “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”


Biden and all pro-illegal demoKKKrats must be removed from all election tickets via the 14th Amendment


12 posted on 10/13/2023 5:19:32 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: george76

If this goes against DJT, and he appeals,and it is taken by the Supremes, any deadline is irrelevant except Nov 5, 2024, and time to print ballots


13 posted on 10/13/2023 5:25:37 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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I think the Courts will in the end block Trump and many others..Remember these Judges are not your friend...


14 posted on 10/13/2023 5:35:36 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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Thank you for referencing that article george76.

"Federal Court Asked to Address 14th Amendment Effort to Bar Trump"


Although the following thread mentions pending cases, it is still good news imo.

US Supreme Court Rejects Challenge to Block Trump in 2024 (10.2.23)

Could it be that articles on this issue are generally not showing Section 3 of 14th Amendment (14A) because that section doesn't actually reference POTUS imo?

Not only does Section 3 not reference POTUS, but why would drafters of Section 3 include banning POTUS from office since the POTUS can be impeached impeached and removed from office anyway?

Also, I think that "or hold any office" in Section 3 is intended to mean appointed offices, not popularly elected or Senate offices, 17th Amendment not existing when 14A drafted.

Here's an example.

"Article I, Section 6, Clause 2: No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States [emphasis added], which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."

As a side note to electing POTUS, please consider this. Probably the main reason that we hear media complaints about the electoral college is the following.

The electoral college is now the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from permanently establishing a puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.


15 posted on 10/13/2023 5:39:32 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: george76

“Republican” John Anthony Castro is judge shopping to get Trump removed from ballots.


16 posted on 10/13/2023 5:50:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: george76

If the Supreme Court rules these law experts to be wrong, ALL of them should face the SAME charges as Eastman is being accused of for advocating an unconventional legal opinion.


17 posted on 10/13/2023 5:50:29 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Amendment10

One point I never see discussed is that the 14th says taking office, which would mean they were elected by the people. Until elected the 14th has no authority. There must be an election first. A state can not deny a place on the ballot for a “violation” of the 14th which has not occurred yet, (must have been elected before the disqualification applies).


18 posted on 10/13/2023 6:02:11 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: MileHi

Griswold is excited to ban Trump from running for re-election.

https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2023/10/13/colo-secretary-of-state-cant-wait-to-ban-trump-from-the-gops-primary-ballot/


19 posted on 10/13/2023 6:11:11 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Oh, I’m sure she is.


20 posted on 10/13/2023 6:19:14 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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