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Excellent article, not paywalled. Also worth reading is the original article (linked) from the (U.S.) Army War College magazine.

Key points:


1 posted on 10/03/2023 8:04:12 AM PDT by Vlad0
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FYI.

Some of you may find this interesting.

2 posted on 10/03/2023 8:05:24 AM PDT by Vlad0
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War college is a place where they send you to learn the process of decision making from the tactical to strategic to the national policy level. It is taught by a wide variety of people, some with war time military experience and others with more academic and historical prospective. Their opinions and predictions of the next war do not always agree, and that is by design.

While this article may be interesting, its just one of many that students at war college produce, and the mileage can vary. The main purpose is to generate debate and forward thinking.


4 posted on 10/03/2023 8:14:43 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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Bookmark


5 posted on 10/03/2023 8:14:44 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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Given how the country is deeply divided over the Ukraine war except for official Washington, you have to wonder how the public would react to thousands of American casualties and 100 million dollar fighters being shot down

I would hope the public would react with righteous anger and actually force action by Washington


6 posted on 10/03/2023 8:15:33 AM PDT by srmanuel
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The rate of American casualties in a future USA vs. Russia war would be much higher than we saw in Afghanistan.

Paging Captain Obvious ...

This can only be a surprise to the opportunists in the upper echelons of the US military who saluted and went along with Bush's transformation of US heavy forces like armor and artillery into light infantry, believing that the history fairy had made any near peer warfare impossible.

Now do our shrunken, badly equipped and trained Navy vs. China.

8 posted on 10/03/2023 8:26:00 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Conventional war with Russia will be Vietnam X2 or 3 or 4.

That’s if it doesn’t go nuclear, if it does were talking about 100’s of millions of dead Americans and Billions world wide.

That’s if we don’t go broke first.

But hey, Ukraine is more important than our own border.


12 posted on 10/03/2023 8:31:25 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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I don’t disagree with the paper.

But the idea of the USA attacking Russia, in Russia, by any sort of conventional means, is absurd. Never happen.

Defending against Chinese aggression, however, is fairly likely. In fact, the Chinese have stated their intent to kill all non-Han Chinese in the Americas and to take over the two continents.


13 posted on 10/03/2023 8:35:48 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Did they mention the fact that our politically correct Diversity, Equity and Inclusiveness/Tranny army has been rendered completely incapable of actually fighting?

I honestly wouldn’t mind flushing the toilet by loading the military full of those types and letting Russia wipe it out and rid us of them.


16 posted on 10/03/2023 8:39:34 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Thanks for posting a summary.

Samuel L. Jackson says “check out the brains on those guys”.

Just one thing, reading between the lines, it seems that it’s less about Russia and more about China.

JMNSHO Russia understands what scorched earth is about and can usually be dealt with by negotiation.

China/CCP, they’re not as pragmatic as Russia. They literally don’t care if they kill off more than half of their own. The CCP, that is. Yes, the same CCP that owns Zhao.

JMNSHO


18 posted on 10/03/2023 8:49:47 AM PDT by OKSooner (Nucular combat, toe to toe with the Rooskies! )
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“Open Source Intel” in this conflict has been largely planted propo by both sides to support public perception of military successes…not battlefield reality.
I do perceive Ukraine has been the far more egregious slayer of fact and reality to keep its indoctrinated militant nationalists and its sugar-daddy MIC money and weapons suppliers in support of continuing the status quo of war to the last Ukrainian.

There’s also been the total embarrassingly incompetent BS in war reporting by ineptly amateurish so-called ‘experts” from various corporate funded “Think Tanks” ( like Nuland’s ISW) ….who deserve to be caned or at least, ignored from now forward. Along with the retired Brass they are renting

I don’t believe for one minute that our Intel Community at least at some level isn’t aware of this…probably the level that is ordered to shut up and provide the POTUS and Congress with doctored weasel-worded estimates to reassure them that eventually, Ukraine will win and unicorns will crap skittles


27 posted on 10/03/2023 9:08:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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“The rate of American casualties in a future USA vs. Russia war would be much higher than we saw in Afghanistan.”

War with China would be much worse.


30 posted on 10/03/2023 9:16:29 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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“Use of open-source intel in the Ukraine war has led to some terrible outcomes. It’s not reliable and the idea we sould make life-and-death military decisions based on what some blogger in Holland or vlogger in Switzerland says is a failure mode.”

Yep. We see that on the FR all the time. The war reports are complete BS most of the time. That doesn’t stop people from analyzing it though.


34 posted on 10/03/2023 9:26:50 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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The only changing the military is capable of under current leadership is the quickening of the slide to woke, pervo total incompetence. We need the War College to tell us a conflict between Russia and NATO would be a mass casualty event? Perhaps, if the Pentagon and WH would remember what MAD actually is, they’d give up their pervo globalist proxy war before they kill us all.


35 posted on 10/03/2023 9:28:56 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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True. But it’ll go nuclear quickly. No way we will fight a conventional war with the Russians, the Chinese or the North Koreans. So war games are a waste of time if it does not involve the use of nuclear weapons.


44 posted on 10/03/2023 9:52:37 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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50% of those F35 A/B are not operational at any time. Months for parts, low ammo, only Marines can meet requirement goals, Trump inherited a 10% frontline-ready Military. After FJB turned it Tranny they can’t be sent to the front line, they are dependent on medications. The same goes for anyone on daily meds. Especially heart meds. NO OIL, in the SOS. Ukraine has our weapons.

Troops plagued by filthy conditions, squatters in military barracks: report
PHOTOS/VIDEO.

Investigators from the GAO visited 12 unnamed military installations to compile the report and spoke with service members in discussion groups to gain their perspectives. Many service members complained of dirty water that was seemingly unsafe to drink in their barracks buildings. Others complained of broken air conditioning and heating systems, forcing many members to purchase individual air conditioning units for their sweltering rooms or turn to unsafe space heaters to provide warmth in the colder months. Another issue noted by investigators was that some buildings lacked secure windows and doors that have in some cases led to squatters occupying the rooms.

In one extreme case, officials at one installation told GAO investigators that “service members are responsible for cleaning biological waste that may remain in a barracks room after a suicide.”

The GAO report included dozens of photos of military barracks buildings from the installations investigators visited, with the photos showing restrooms with sewage overflowing, cracked sewage pipes, water damage, pests and mold or mildew growth. Other photos showed the possessions belonging to apparent squatters who were not authorized to be living in the buildings.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/troops-plagued-filthy-conditions-squatter-military-barracks

UNIFORM SHORTAGES: REPORT: U.S. Marines Struggling With a Shortage of Camouflage Uniforms

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/report-u-s-marines-struggling-shortage-camouflage-uniforms/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=2023-10-01


48 posted on 10/03/2023 9:55:26 AM PDT by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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This country is being marched, paraded and cajoled into going to war with Russia because our President is being blackmailed by a foreign leader that has crushed political opponents, shut down churches and bought lavish safe houses with US money.

This “war” is leading to this country’s demise, there are no peacemakers, the hawks rule now.
56 posted on 10/03/2023 9:59:33 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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Hey. This is just what we need... a Trillion $$ war with Russia where we have little national interests, lose masses of troops and equipment, wreck our fragile economy, and probably end up with millions dead in a disastrous nuclear exchange.

That is certainly worth it to "secure" the contested Ukraine eastern border while we are being overrun by millions of military aged men on our own southern border.

Yup, it's precisely what we need!

68 posted on 10/03/2023 10:24:30 AM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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Somewhere Delmar G. Simpson is smiling at the thought of all the cute suburban gals being drafted into the Army. This will make “Aberdeen” look like a convent. Draft the cheerleaders and leave the football team at home. What a joke as history repeats itself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/aberdeen/aber3.htm


69 posted on 10/03/2023 10:59:12 AM PDT by MSF BU
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Everyone in the military knows this, which is why they are starting the drumbeat to restore the draft. (Military conscriptions).

Or we could just STAY OUT OF IT.

Never mind.Put in the draft. Draft Auntie Fah, BLM, and all the feminists. They will all get their wish to fight for the radical left and uniparty in Russia.

🍿

72 posted on 10/03/2023 11:21:25 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America )
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I’m more worried about how the US Troops will do against the Chinese within our border, and on the Canadian border just waiting orders.


82 posted on 10/03/2023 2:23:33 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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