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Growing electric vehicle sales bring concerns over safety hazards, toxicity, infrastructure costs
Just the News ^ | 9/22/2023 | Steven Richards

Posted on 09/23/2023 10:26:58 AM PDT by Signalman

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To: Signalman

When you tally up the EV negatives, there are way more of them than the positives. It’s just another cockamamy fade by hypocritical environmental Globalists. They get chauffeured around in big SUVs and fly in personal jets around the world while dictating to the little people how they should live. They are arrogant SOBs who shouldn’t be given the time of day.


41 posted on 09/23/2023 1:20:51 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: alloysteel

In the modern era people have been pumping oil out of the ground since around 1860.

That is well over 150 years.

Today and in recent years the world consumption of oil has been approximately 90 million barrels of crude oil a day.

That’s 32,850,000,000 (32.85 BILLION) barrels per year.

(an industry standard barrel contains approximately 45 gallons of crude oil)

About 45 percent of a typical barrel of crude oil is refined into gasoline.
An additional 29 percent is refined to diesel fuel.
The remaining oil is used to make plastics and other products

Will the lithium and rare earth mineral mines produce sufficient material to make enough vehicle batteries
to replace 74% of the energy produced by the oil pumped every day?

Will those mines still be producing 150 yeas from now?

PS - Think of this:

The Greenies are always carrying on about “renewable energy”,

But none of the lithium or rare earth minerals rquired for modern EV batteries is renewable.
And my bet is that those mineral mines will run dry a long time befor the oild wells dry up.

Saudi Arabia alone has been pumping oil for 85 years and is still producing 4.5 BILLION barrels a year with proven reserves of more than 220 years at that rate.


42 posted on 09/23/2023 2:12:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes)
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To: entropy12

Did the same, no home owners, but I get anxious come hurricane season


43 posted on 09/23/2023 2:48:55 PM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and will hate you for it.)
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To: Signalman

I go to Reddit to read articles and saw an post about some guy was denied parking in a parking garage. They would not allow Chevy Bolts. His electric car was not a Bolt but still banned and he could not understand why.
Answers given were high insurance costs, electric cars damaged slightly in accident but are totaled out by the insurance company as the battery needs replacement. Uncontrollable fire, mass deaths.

There were people who still thought electric was good. I guess if your home or car is not on fire then everything is good.
Those high insurance costs will also cause gas car insurance to rise to help pay for electric.


44 posted on 09/23/2023 3:35:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: reviled downesdad

If you are more than 3 miles from ocean, chances of hurricane damage odds favor you by 1000:1. At 10+ miles from ocean odds favor by 10,000:1.

I paid HI since 1970 without collecting a dime.
Enough is enough.


45 posted on 09/23/2023 4:47:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Signalman

“...unexpectedly!”


46 posted on 09/23/2023 5:21:32 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: entropy12

#27 Depends on the maker of batteries.
This guy has a site with nearly 3 million subscribers. He talks loud and fast.
Here is his tests on knockoff batteries. In short do not buy.

How Dangerous Are Knockoff Tool Batteries? Let’s find out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf0qqsRMKpM


47 posted on 09/23/2023 8:09:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

I bought a backup battery for my Ryobi lawn mower from Amazon. It has worked better than the original battery. Now the original battery is dead, but the off-brand battery is working fine.


48 posted on 09/23/2023 8:15:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yeah, those things are just flying off the lots.

I have a long time friend who has been a car salesman for nearly 30 years and he tells me it's difficult to even interest a potential customer in test driving an EV.

His words not mine.. "they're pretty much turned OFF when it comes to EVs."

Just so you know... I'm located in the mid-south just outside Nashville.

49 posted on 09/24/2023 3:07:09 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Iron Munro
Your post #42 tells me that, most likely, OIL is here to STAY... Lithium and EVs are MOMENTARY!


50 posted on 09/24/2023 3:12:16 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: FreedomPoster

Do hybrids have those lithium batteries too?


51 posted on 09/24/2023 3:12:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah. Where are they insuring those cars, San Francisco? Our two cost us 1900 per year. If II did not feel the need to have uninsured coverage it would be much less.


52 posted on 09/24/2023 6:08:16 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: Signalman

“””So many reasons not to buy an Electric Car…””


Citizens Free Press has linked this FR thread to their site with the above title.


53 posted on 09/24/2023 6:52:30 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Signalman

This is a first for me - CFP linked directly to Free Republic for their story! Thanks for the pub, Kane 😁


54 posted on 09/24/2023 8:49:49 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Signalman

“”can easily be fully recharged each night””

Kalifornia is forcing regulations that will require all EVs to be capable of bidirectional charging. The Kalifornia tyrants want mandatory ‘plug into the grid’ capability for all EVs. The purpose? They don’t even try to hide it. They want the power in YOUR EV just in case they decide they need it.

So, you could be charging your EV overnight, and expect to drive in the morning. The tyrants could just take your EVs energy. They will probably mandate everyone purchase a bicycle for when they have taken your electricity. Each according to their need, don’tcha know.


55 posted on 09/24/2023 10:56:41 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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Chinese EVs are very inexpensive. The strike facilitated a CCP takeover of U.S. auto. They’ll loss lead.


56 posted on 09/24/2023 11:02:32 AM PDT by combat_boots ( )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
Kalifornia is forcing regulations that will require all EVs to be capable of bidirectional charging.

It doesn't appear anything has passed yet, but they seem to be taking a serious look at it.

57 posted on 09/24/2023 12:39:33 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: Signalman

This article is full of FUD info. It’s the automotive equivalent of what the msm says about “assault weapons”.

EV fires are rare compared to ICE car fires, and hybrids are the worst.

Hummer EV weigh 4.5 tons, it’s a beast, and only a few dozen have sold. A Tesla model Y is about 4,500 pounds, model 3 about 4,000 pounds. The model Y is the best selling vehicle in the world in Q1. Teslas are the safest cars as tested by NHTSA and Euro Ncap.

EVs battery prices are falling and just reached $100/kwh. Since the battery is 40% of the cost, the price of EVs will continue to fall. Manufacturers warranty the battery for about 8 years or 100,000 miles. Degradation is about 1% a year.

The US is behind in EV adoption, but at 8% and growing 60% per year, it will catch up with Europe (20%) and China (40%) soon enough.

If you want to buy an American car here in the US, check out Cars dot com and see which cars have the highest U.S. made content: the top 4 are Teslas.

Maintenance is much less expensive than ICE cars. Running costs are much less especially if you charge at home or drive a lot. Repair can be more depending on extent of damage. Your typical fender bender is going to be about the same.

I like the idea of buying my car online, and avoiding the dealership “experience”: markups and unnecessary dealer installed stuff that can add thousands of dollars to the cost.

There are a lot of reasons EVs might not work for you, but this biased article isn’t what you should base a buying decision on.


58 posted on 09/24/2023 5:46:17 PM PDT by vicdoc
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