China’s economy will crash, and will cause a cascade of repercussions globally.
An ideology is never defeated.
Recurring cycles…
Xi has gotten rid of anyone who might threaten his rule. As usual this means that he’s gotten rid of anyone who is competent. The next step will be more executions as the toadies and sycophants who are left fail at their tasks. Just the same old totalitarian playbook.
China is strong it’s America that is collapsing.
They're stockpiling fuels and raw materials at a record pace, even as their manufacturing sector slows.
They're preparing for something...
I think Zeihan has been predicting this for over 10 years. Could be a real thing, but so far it hasn’t happened. And, on another note, from what I can tell, Zeihan thinks Biden is pretty decent president — but he doesn’t have a single good thing to say about Trump. I consider Zeihan to be Deep State.
China is fine.
We will collapse first.
China is ruled by an evil regime and I hope I'm wrong. Peter Zeihan has been loudly predicting a collapse for years. I hope he's right and I'd gladly admit I'm wrong.
Communism is winning in the USA.
I like Zeihan, but I keep wondering if he is as smart as he and his team think they are.
China is facing a demographic collapse. So is the rest of the developed world. China is, however, ruthless.
Don’t underestimate them.
Red China seems to have some fans here at FR judging by the responses.
Leaves China with fewer than 400 Million by 2100.
Assumes no major war.
In this thread, the usually “America sucks” members of FR.
They think China is strong. It’s not.
They think China is growing. It’s not. Demographically it’s about to fall off at cliff.
They think China’s economy is doing great. It’s not. HUGE real estate companies have gone belly up in the past couple of months.
They think China is going to invade Taiwan. Except China doesn’t have the lift capacity to get more than a few thousand troops there in any significant time.
China, China, China has become the new Russia.
This guy’s a bit of a grifter.
Not long ago he’s saying the opposite.
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving nation of Communists.
One estimate:
Mao’s policies were responsible for vast numbers of deaths, with estimates ranging from 40 to 80 million victims due to starvation, persecution, prison labor, and mass executions.
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How many Americans were killed in Korea?
Casualties. As of 2022, according to the list of Wall of Remembrance in the Korean War Veterans Memorial, killed soldiers were 36,634. But this figure fluctuates depending on the ongoing correction of the list.
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From History.org
The Most Harrowing Battle of the Korean War
At the Chosin Reservoir, subzero temperatures were much the enemy as communists; frozen bodies were used as sandbags.
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China brags about US casualties in Korean War
Washington Examiner
Apr 28, 2023 — “According to China’s records, the enemy forces lost 36,000 troops to the Battle of Lake Changjin, including 24,000 U.S. troops.”
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new topic-—Tibet.
Over 1.2 million Tibetans have died as a result of the Chinese occupation. -In 1960 the International Commission of Jurists determined that genocide had been committed by China against Tibet.
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According to the Central Tibetan Administration, “Tibetans were not only shot, but also were beaten to death, crucified, burned alive, drowned, mutilated, starved, strangled, hanged, boiled alive, buried alive, drawn and quartered, and beheaded.” According to The Black Book of Communism, the Chinese Communists carried out a cultural genocide against the people of Tibet. Jean-Louis Margolin states that the killings were proportionally larger in Tibet than China proper, and that “one can legitimately speak of genocidal massacres because of the numbers involved.”
Adam Jones, another western scholar, from Canada specializing in genocide, notes that after the 1959 Tibetan uprising, the Chinese authorized struggle sessions against reactionaries, during which “...communist regime denounced, tortured, and frequently executed enemies of the people.” These sessions resulted in over 92,000 deaths out of a population of about 6 million. These deaths, Jones stresses, may be seen not only as a genocide but also as ‘eliticide’ – “targeting the better educated and leadership oriented elements among the Tibetan population.”
Source; Tibet Post. YESHE CHOESANG, TIBET POST INTERNATIONAL 18 JULY 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIOIkGEvd8o&t=260s
I have listened to Zeihan at the behest of a former AF Intel friend, but I am not convinced by his arguments and certainty concerning China’s impending demise. It’s just a feeling but I think what he’s peddling is what US establishment types want and need to hear in order for the US to succeed in derailing the Chinese juggernaut. His demographic analysis makes sense, but my instinct tells me there are significant factors he’s not taking into account in order to reach his prognosis for a Chinese implosion. He sees our influx of immigrants as a positive thing helping off set our own demographic decline, but it’s clear to me that his view is too simplistic and ignores real dangers.
The collapse has STARTED but has a LONG way to go. Also, the communist party does not yet feel threatened. When it does feel like there is a possibility it will loose power, buckle up, it is going to be a bumpy ride.
How does that saying go ? ..... May you live in interesting times.
Biden just said we need to work with Chicoms on climate change.
We have been propping them up ever since Nixon/Kissinger.
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