Posted on 09/18/2023 12:00:17 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
Ukraine could have avoided hundreds of thousands of deaths and lost less land if it had reached a peace deal with Russia before the conflict began last February, former US President Donald Trump told NBC News in an interview aired on Sunday.
The loss of Ukrainian territory to Russia is “something that could have been negotiated,” Trump told NBC host Kristen Welker, adding that “a lot of people expected” Kiev to abandon its claims to “Crimea and other parts of the country” in exchange for peace.
“So they could have made a deal where there’s less territory [lost] than Russia has already taken,” Trump continued. “They could have made a deal where nobody was killed…they would have had a Ukrainian country. Now nobody even knows if Ukraine is going to be totally taken over.”
By “other parts of the country,” Trump was likely referring to the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, whose sovereignty Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized three days before Russia’s military operation in Ukraine began. Following referendums last September, both regions have now joined the Russian Federation, along with the formerly Ukrainian territories of Kherson and Zaporozhye. Crimea voted to rejoin Russia in 2014.
“forgot NATO invading the kosovo region in the 90’s’
And the Cold War years spent maintaining a balance of power to avoid open hostilities...
At least you admitted that NATO lied when it said it was purely defensive
Also those genocides were proven lies, and the Bosnians that NATO protected went on to be al-qaeda and ISIS allies
So, Trump is now a surrender monkey.
That’s appeasement, just like Neville Chamberlain. Exactly like that. So, now Liberaltarian pseudo conservatives support Chamberlainesque Appeasement.
Wow. Not your Reagan Republicanism.
No, you dumbass, you have it wrong as always.
I've repeatedly stated I do not support the neocon adventures. I've provided you links demonstrating my posts to that effect going back over two decades on this very forum.
Because I objectively observe that the Russian military is gawd-awful at accomplishing their objectives, and would get waxed in a showdown with the U.S. military, your tiny brain assumes I must be a neocon.
Go away, moron. You think Macgregor's predictions from March of 2022 were true. You're too stupid to tolerate.
Trump’s account of the Ukraine war is fictional nonsense.
Putin did not give Ukraine an ultimatum that was rejected; he simply invaded, thinking he was going to conquer Ukraine in 2 weeks.
It is true that Biden’s Afghan fiasco emboldened Putin, but that is not Ukraine’s fault.
“But then all those politicians, their family members, big donors, etc., wouldn’t have been able to make money off the military industrial complex, nor be able to launder any of their ill-gotten gains, if it hadn’t happened.”
Yep, absolutely. The only winners of this ballgame are those who sell the franchises the equipment to play the game.
Wonder why this simple reality is just so hard to understand?
Yep.
I explained in great detail all of Col MacGregor’s comments.
And a sad commentary is that all that I read of foreign sources, much of the world is referring to us, the USA, as the warmonger of the world. They mention Ukraine, Kosovo, the Mideast and more. That is not a reputation I want for this nation I love.
Good point.
And then there’s you.
Agreed!
I am still pro-Trump, but am disappointed by this.
Regards,
Not sure about that. He is a West Point grad with a PhD in history, not to mention his bravery on the battlefield. And did I mention he despises the Neocon wars you cheerlead for?
Now it is looking like the nazis are going to send Zelenski out feet first. It’s the money from the Us that keeps them civilized.
So, cancuck_the brain surgeon, what exactly did Putin do that makes him a monster?
Standing up for his country against US/NATO covert invasion, aggression, and broken promises and with an 80% approval rating in his home country?
Get over it. Those Ukes will soon be speaking Ruskie again -- the ones that don't or have not bailed out of what's left of their little country led by a corrupt freak-show clown.
At root, Trump is lacking the fight gene. He will never, ever, fight
He just can’t bring himself to actually fight. If he can’t make a deal, he just gives up.
So we should play world police to stop Putin, with bankrupt US Treasury? That is as stupid as it gets. We have no treaty obligations to defend Ukraine borders.
Poland is ready and willing and able to do the job.
May be it is better that way with the ugly yuge national debt hanging on heads of our children and grand children.
Within 10 years, net interest costs on the national debt alone will exceed federal expenditures for Medicaid PLUS defense; and, over the next 30 years, these interest payments will be the biggest line item in the federal budget.
Let Poland do it. USA is more bankrupt than all G-20 countries.
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