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The number of RAF combat aircraft is so low they would be wiped out by 'attrition' if Britain went to war with Putin as Russia has more than 20 times more aircraft and our fleet is smaller than European allies
Daily Mail ^ | 9/9/23 | Mark Nicol

Posted on 09/12/2023 10:31:24 AM PDT by JonPreston

The RAF's fleet of combat aircraft is so small it would be wiped out if Britain went to war against Vladimir Putin, according to a parliamentary report.

There are so few Typhoon jets and F-35s that the fleet could not withstand the 'levels of attrition' that would occur.

The UK has just 169 frontline jets to Russia's 1,500 and, after repeated post-Cold War cutbacks, our fleet is also smaller than that of our European allies.

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To: alexander_busek

Hyperbole on your part.


21 posted on 09/12/2023 11:03:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: kabar
In the real world, the US would be defending the rest of NATO, which adds little to our own defense. The US has been providing the security umbrella for the rest of Europe for 75 years.

There is a good reason for that: Central Europe would be the battleground into which the enemy's land forces would be pouring.

Not an enviable position!

Europe is our "beach head."

Any non-nuclear conflict with Russia would be carried out 90% in Europe.

Pity the Europeans in whose homelands this conflict would be carried out!

Regards,

22 posted on 09/12/2023 11:05:18 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: JonPreston

I read this as saying “We must spend another $400Billion$ on weapons despite our crashing economy, raging unemployment, out of control housing costs, double digit inflation, mass illegal immigration....my boys need a new yacht.”


23 posted on 09/12/2023 11:06:10 AM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: dfwgator

“Harry Jerry, box his kite,right in the how’s your father?!’’


24 posted on 09/12/2023 11:08:20 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: alexander_busek

Not to mention draining the alcohol coolant out of the jet engines to get drunk and what ever else the Russkies steal to buy more vodka.


25 posted on 09/12/2023 11:09:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: JonPreston

Sounds like the RAF is in better shape than the Royal Navy. 4 ballistic missile subs, 6 attack subs, two “aircraft carriers”, 6 destroyers, 11 frigates, 2 amphibious transport docks - that’s the blue water Royal Navy.


26 posted on 09/12/2023 11:09:56 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: JonPreston

And no way to build up.

Peace dividend


27 posted on 09/12/2023 11:13:47 AM PDT by redgolum (We are not going to make it, are we. )
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To: Boogieman

Add up NATO for us and see how many you get that can survive the environment in Ukraine?


28 posted on 09/12/2023 11:14:48 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: CodeToad

Take out the airfields and see where they land and takeoff.


29 posted on 09/12/2023 11:16:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: jmacusa; CodeToad
Not to mention draining the alcohol coolant out of the jet engines to get drunk and what ever else the Russkies steal to buy more vodka.

Hyperbole!

Oh, wait!

An “extremely high” number of Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine are thought to be dying due to alcohol abuse, The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said.

Regards,

30 posted on 09/12/2023 11:17:55 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: kabar

“the US spends more on defense than the rest of NATO combined and then some”

If you measure in just total spent, sure, but that’s not how the chart you posted is measuring. That’s measuring proportional spending compared to GDP, and by that measure, the US certainly doesn’t spend very much more than any other NATO member.


31 posted on 09/12/2023 11:21:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JonPreston
Hi Comrade - good news I suppose that the odds of the UK going to war one-on-one with the Soviets (I mean Russians) are effectively zero. How are the Russians going to even get to the UK?

The good news is that the US Air Force is vastly larger and more capable than the Russian Air Force (we have twice as many planes!) A few other NATO Air Forces are also perfectly capable of messing up the Russians. Sorry you keep backing losers, foreigner.

32 posted on 09/12/2023 11:21:31 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: CodeToad

“...is currently grounded at a 50% or higher rate in most cases”

And when you have almost 5 times the air power of Russia, that doesn’t really matter much.


33 posted on 09/12/2023 11:21:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JonPreston

Compared to Russia, which is in an even greater state of decay? Certainly yes.


34 posted on 09/12/2023 11:22:25 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: alexander_busek
I highly recommend “MiG Pilot’’ by Viktor Blenko. It's an eye opener. Regards.
35 posted on 09/12/2023 11:22:54 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: kabar

36 posted on 09/12/2023 11:22:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: JonPreston

There will not be a need for the Air Force in the so called next war so it’s doesn’t matter.


37 posted on 09/12/2023 11:24:11 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Boogieman

What alternate universe are you in? The Air Force, like Carriers, will not be a factor in another war. Drones will be used for the most part, it will an automated video game war.


38 posted on 09/12/2023 11:26:02 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

First thing to go in a World War are the satellites.


39 posted on 09/12/2023 11:26:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BlackbirdSST
NATO is dying on the vine

Lol, what? Is that why Sweden and Finland just joined NATO (both of which have modern and capable air forces specifically designed to fight the Russians).

Many here just sit by their phone waiting for 1980 to call.

In 1980, we were worried that Russia would invade its European neighbors, today it is.

The bad news is Russia is much more reckless now than it was then. The good news is that we are stronger and they are much weaker than either party was in 1980.

40 posted on 09/12/2023 11:27:32 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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