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EVs Are Awesome Except When They Break Down and There's No One to Fix Them
PJ Media ^ | 9/6/23 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/06/2023 5:33:42 PM PDT by CFW

So you got yourself a brand new, $70,000 subsidized electric vehicle (EV), and everyone on your block is envious. Quiet, non-polluting, cheaper to operate than a gas-powered vehicle, right?

That’s not entirely accurate. The grim fact is, you better pray your EV never breaks down. The electric vehicle manufacturers sort of forgot to train the necessary number of mechanics to service your beautiful new car, leaving you with repair costs that will be through the roof.

It seems like too obvious a detail to overlook. And it’s going to blow up the EV industry once a couple of millions of them are on the road.

EV’s are, it turns out, incredibly dangerous to work on. The electric voltage technicians work with could kill mechanics very quickly. Then there’s the fire hazard with EV batteries.

And the specialized diagnostic equipment needed to service EV’s is putting off most small, independent repair shops that experts agree are going to be needed to keep the cost of repairs and warranties down.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; evs; lackofplanning; mechanics; screwed
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To: CFW

Read later.


61 posted on 09/06/2023 8:23:12 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: YitBurnWenIP
Also I think ev is a temporary solution until hydrogen cars become the next shiny new toy

A "hydrogen car" is just an EV carrying a volume of explosive hydrogen in place of an explosive lithium battery. Hydrogen comes from electrolysis of water -> H2 and O2 or derived from processed natural gas in large volumes. Either way, something has to generate the electricity...likely coal/gas/nuclear/hydro to do the electrolysis and/or natural gas -> H2. It's still "fossil fuels" creating an intermediate store of energy (battery or hydrogen) to drive an EV. Lots of wasted energy in the conversion process.

62 posted on 09/06/2023 8:27:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Brian Griffin
China manufactures large numbers of EVs, but most end up parked in fields. They are never sold. Like ghost cities, it is just done for bragging rights on the number of units produced.
63 posted on 09/06/2023 8:31:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: CFW
There is nothing as disheartening as seeing a large solar panel field after a hail storm. Total destruction. An accident waiting to happen nearly anywhere solar panels are installed.
64 posted on 09/06/2023 8:33:11 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: YitBurnWenIP
Some states, including Alabama, add an EV charge for the annual car registration (we call it renewing our car tags) to offset the fact that EV owners don't pay gas tax. For us it's $200 per year which IMHO seems fair. We pay 46 cents per gallon in gas tax. Thus, to pay $200 in gas taxes one would have to buy 435 gallons of gas in a year. At 30 mpg that comes out to 13K miles.

Then on top of that, our (Alabama) car registration amount is ad valorem, meaning you pay more to renew your car tag if your car is worth more. Since most EV's have a higher market value than their comparable gas cars, EV owners are paying more than the $200 EV surcharge to renew their car tag than gas car owners pay to renew theirs. In other words, a gas car owner would have to buy even more than the 435 gallons of gas I calculated above to pay the equivalent an EV owner pays in annual registration.

I don't know how all that works in other states or how much people pay in gas taxes per gallon in other states. I'm just giving you numbers that I'm familiar with in Alabama.

65 posted on 09/06/2023 8:36:11 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: bohica1

EV batteries are heavy, so the cars need heavy duty tires. The weight of the vehicle will make them wear faster too. On a regular car, you can get by okay with cheap tires, but not with an EV.

https://pimpmyev.com/blogs/speed-style-carbon-fiber/do-teslas-have-tire-problems?_pos=11&_sid=07cd91763&_ss=r


66 posted on 09/06/2023 8:42:28 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Myrddin

RE: China manufactures large numbers of EVs, but most end up parked in fields. They are never sold.

Scene in China. Business leader: “I think it is time to send many more of these to the American round eyes. It worked so well with fentanyl and spyware in electronic devices.”


67 posted on 09/06/2023 8:44:16 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: CFW
Solar panels in a way are like just about everything else in life. If they're set up by the bureaucrats to help a community, they're worthless.

But if someone does solar for his own use, researches his own power needs and his situation to see if solar would work for him (paying particular attention to the prepper forums and blogs because those folks who do solar do it with the real world specs in mind to get real world results), buys them himself and installs them himself and configures them himself (or hires a professional to do so), then he's more liable to get good results because he's got a vested interest in making sure solar gives him the expected throughput and is taken care of to last a while.

That's not a solar vs coal argument or solar vs natural gas argument. That's an argument that each of us should do what we feasibly can to make ourselves a little more self-reliant and rarely trust a bureaucrat to do what's best for us. With that mindset regarding energy, since I can't mine my own coal or drill my own natural gas, I chose to install and configure solar for our particular energy consumption habits and convert my two natural gas appliances to electric ones and do other energy improvements to my home. The end result is I buy on average only 18% of the power I need from the grid because solar provides the rest. There's no way a solar farm in my area could give my neighborhood that kind of throughput and be worth the cost, even with the same weather patterns I have.

Likewise my wife and I are doing more gardening each year (I don't know if we'll ever get up to producing 80% of our food LOL). And we're looking at capturing our own water (I probably won't go there, but I'm giving it a look).

68 posted on 09/06/2023 9:00:25 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: BobL

Please share with us this wildly novel development in electric cars that has been promised since the 1890s, please.


69 posted on 09/06/2023 9:19:31 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: frank ballenger
Scene in China. Business leader: “I think it is time to send many more of these to the American round eyes. It worked so well with fentanyl and spyware in electronic devices.”

The EVs that China is manufacturing and parking just to brag about the number produced are crap. There is no market for them in China or the US. Just pointless flagellation.

70 posted on 09/06/2023 9:39:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TexasGator

Yeah, show me who’s embarrassed after 10 runs, and the Hellcat drives itself home, while the EV has to be winched onto the trailer after not finishing its 5th run...


71 posted on 09/06/2023 9:50:28 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: TexasGator
“One more thing; since EV’s don’t have to worry about CAFE requirements (yet),”

CAFE is related to mileage requirements and unrelated to crash standards.

CAFE requirements are related to mileage, and the traditional bumper was one of the first things to go in order to make the vehicle lighter in order to improve MPG and satisfy CAFE for ICE vehicles.

72 posted on 09/06/2023 9:53:37 PM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: T.B. Yoits

The Plaid seems to accelerate quicker even when both cars have traction (e.g. vs. Hellcat). Power to weight ratio.


73 posted on 09/06/2023 9:57:00 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: CFW

And EV breakdowns are catastrophic. One problem with the battery and poof. There goes the car or you need a new battery pack. I would imagine ol’ Jimbob down the street can rebuild one of those electric controllers or a huge DC motor in his garage on the weekend. Oh, a wire loose? No biggie. Oh wait, that’s a wire to the entire control system which will need replaced.

Hence why government is FORCING them on us. They are crap but there are trillions to be made.


74 posted on 09/06/2023 10:11:52 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Brian Griffin

“Imagine what your future electric bills are going to look like”

Shouldn’t be a problem for those on
SSI with their 3% COLA...../s


75 posted on 09/07/2023 12:26:01 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: CFW

“Quiet, non-polluting, cheaper to operate than a gas-powered vehicle, right?”

Non polluting? The power for EVs is largely produced by coal and natural gas plants, not windmills. Just because the pollution doesn’t come out of the tailpipe doesn’t mean it isn’t produced.


76 posted on 09/07/2023 3:07:00 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: jdsteel

Remember electricity they can control thereby controlling you


77 posted on 09/07/2023 3:27:36 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: econjack

Video has been removed


78 posted on 09/07/2023 3:46:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: TexasGator
Tesla sells ...the PowerWall for homes.

At a cost of between $9,200.00 and $14,200.00 if purchased directly from Tesla.

79 posted on 09/07/2023 3:54:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: YitBurnWenIP

“ Also I think ev is a temporary solution until hydrogen cars become the next shiny new toy”
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Agree. Hydrogen is the future especially for commercial use such as construction, long haulers, etc. and, current gasoline logistics and distribution system is compatible for hydrogen.


80 posted on 09/07/2023 4:24:08 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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