Was Mike Pence a fifth columnist in the White House?

American Thinker ^ | 07/26/2023 | Andrea Widburg

[SeekAndFind]

One of my oft-repeated statements is that it’s not the Democrats’ fault that Trump was unable to achieve so many of his goals and then failed to retake the White House. Instead, it was the Republicans’ fault because so many constantly blocked him. That’s why it’s easy to believe what Tucker Carlson told his official biographer, which is that one of those Republicans could have been his own Vice President.

It turns out that, during Tucker’s stint at CNN, he often interviewed Mike Pence. Tucker spoke about that experience during no-holds-barred conversations with Chadwick Moore, his official biographer. Jordan Schachtal, having had access to a preview copy of the book, reports that Tucker intensely dislikes Pence and views him as a turncoat:

In discussing his tenure at CNN, Carlson recalled that Mike Pence was one of the most frequent guests booked on his program. Pence, who was a young, ambitious congressman at the time, was “creepy as hell” even then, Carlson says.

“I’ve been around him a lot, and always felt that he was a totally sinister figure, craven and dishonest,” he tells author Chadwick Moore. “Everything about Pence is false.”

Image: Donald Trump and Mike Pence. YouTube screen grab.

Carlson tells the author that he believes Pence purposely sabotaged the Trump Administration over the entire course of his tenure. He believes that the Pence insubordination campaign went into overdrive during the covid hysteria era, when he stood up the infamous White House Coronavirus Task Force, and delivered unprecedented power to Dr. Anthony Fauci.

While noting that this does not absolve President Trump from ultimate responsibility for his actions, Carlson perceives Pence’s role as someone deployed into the administration to “undermine Trump and to keep an eye on him.”

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Tucker adds, correctly, that Trump is ultimately responsible for his own decision to abdicate responsibility to Pence and Fauci, but one must remember that, in the early months of 2020, there was very limited data, so Fauci’s “I am the science” persona seemed like a reliable policy source. By the end of May, though, when the entire leftist establishment announced that masks, lockdowns, and social distancing didn’t apply to riots, the leftist jig was up, and any further reliance on Fauci and “the science” was foolhardy. But still, if Trump trusted Pence…

[sauropod]

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[rlmorel]

Yes. Like the Captain of a ship, all accountability for decisions rest with the President.

That said, it is not the job of a President to understand the science and work in a bio-lab towards a vaccine.

His job, as a chief executive, is to get educated enough to make meaningful decisions when asked to do so, listen to experts, and facilitate the decision-making process.

Part and parcel of that is to actually listen to experts, and I have no doubt Fauci was brought in and deferred to by Trump given Fauci’s “expertise”.

As for Trump trusting Pence, I just assume he had to. I am trying to figure out how that mechanism would work if you didn’t have anyone to trust...it would be hard to get anything done, and Trump did get things done, even with the barnacles of the Deep State plastered all over his body.

I don’t trust Pence at all. Not a bit.

[kvanbrunt2]

If true, speaks very badly for trump. or any one trying to properly align the government to the constitution.

[kvanbrunt2]

That said, it is not the job of a President to understand the science and work in a bio-lab towards a vaccine.>>> One thing tho. Trump absolved everyone associated with COvid from any liability for their actions and injections without any deal.. Art of the Deal failed bigly.

[Mark17]

I don’t trust Pence at all. Not a bit.

I don’t either. I felt uncomfortable with him, the first time I ever saw his face. Something just didn’t feel right.

[Paladin2]

Is Pence any better than Dan Quale?

Likely >> than Kamella.

A low bar…..

[angelsonmyside]

bttt

[CaptainK]

Mike Pence was ready to bum-rush Trump into a political grave during the Access Hollywood episode. Pence ran like a track star to the RNC and said he was ready to take Donald Trump's place as the party's nominee in 2016.

He also got snookered by the Obama/Biden cabal when they spied on Michael Flynn and came up with the bogus Logan Act theory to get rid of Flynn. I wish Trump would have picked someone like Rand Paul as his running mate. He would have been more loyal and more aware of the deep states shenanigans.

[vivenne]

Pence and Paul Ryan had a plan to take the nomination and wrote emails to the RNC and donors, so it’s documented. Pence is a diabolical snake.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Kneel before Zod!

The guy totally gives off a creepy back-stabbing feel. How was Trump so flipping obliviou?. Maybe, all of this is bullshit. The guy kept getting more and more swamp monsters in his cabinet. Either he had a Wormtongue or he’s part of the Swamp. You can only give a billionaire so many passes.

[SaveFerris]

Mike Pence’s eyes are quite revealing

[SaveFerris]

It’s his eyes

His eyes bothered me from the beginning, frankly

[Gaffer]

A staid embedded RINO who lied his butt off to Trump to get the VP spot. Kept his mouth shut until he found a way he could tank Trump. I’d vote for a Democrat before I’d vote for him.

[libh8er]

Pence’s silence after the 2020 election as it was being stolen…was the most extraordinary thing to me. Trump was raising the alarm. Boxes and boxes of votes were coming out of nowhere in a handful of states and Trump’s lead going down by the hour. Plus all kinds of “irregularities” were being reported. And through all this Pence remained silent. Not a word of protest. The operation to remove Trump from office was underway and though Pence was not part of it, he was giving it his silent approval.

[Boomer]

Pence has proven himself to be a Judas. That’s all I need to know about him.

[Mark17]

👍👍👍👍👍

[Mark17]

Pence has proven himself to be a Judas.

He has indeed. My question is, how did he get picked for VP, in the first place?

[UnwashedPeasant]

Trump underestimated the willingness of people like Pence and Fauci to do evil.

That level of depravity was incomprehensible to normal people in civilized society.

[ransomnote]

I recall any attempt by Trump to inject sanity into the COvid panic was distorted by the media and Congress.
I believe that Pelosi’s ‘delegation’ to the supposed Climate COnference at the UN was in fact representatives of Congress asking the UN to intervene because the president (Trump) is a danger to the public. “Halp us!” Such complaints taken to the UN are permitted to be confidential.

Then you saw Trump float alternative treatments and when he discusssed ways that bleach had been used, Nancy Pelosi stood up before the nation, looked into the camera and told the public, and the UN, “The President of The United States is murdering people....” I don’t know if I got the syntax right, but that was certainly her meaning.

Pelosi and others portrayed Trump as dangerously disconnected and allowing the nation to fall off a precipice in a supposed ‘Pandemic’; I believe these tactics were to signal the UN to act. The UN is the ‘friendly face of coup’. They are invited into a country said to have an emergency (in this case, a ‘kookoo president supposedly telling people to drink bleach’. Obviously Trump never said to drink bleach etc. but as long as the UN could claim to believe the lies about Trump, they could use it as an excuse to intervene and ‘save’ the public from freedom and hope.

It was such a farce - the more Trump spoke sanity, the more the coven in DC whispered that he was irrational, disconnected, given potentially lethal medical advice at a time when the nation needed leadership.

If he stood before the world and defied the CDC/NIH and the ‘experts’ touting the narrative, the MSM and Congress would have, I think, panicked enough of the public into believing he was not to be trusted that the UN may well have been activated to ‘protect us’. And that my friends, is the opening gambit of a coup.

In other countries, the UN is begged by usurpers and infiltrators to save the country from something or someone. The UN pretends to ‘care’ and send help (”peacekeepers”) said to be temporary. Soldiers from other countries arrive and repel any attempts by patriots to restore the rule of law, dubbing patriots evil 5th column actors. The ‘temporary troops’ hold the door open for permanent UN troops to permanently prop up the puppet installed to ‘save’ the people’.

I believe Trump did what he could - the MSM and CDC/NIH had the public in thrall, believing hospitals were overflowing with Covid patients when they were not. In that climate of fear, Trump would not be believed if he refuted all medical experts the MSM and CDC allowed to represent medicine to the public. This was happening world-wide. Trump would have been deemed crazy and off the rails. We came THISCLOSE to a UN assisted coup and I think Trump did as much as the optics would allow.