New Plan Released to Scrap the FBI and 'Start From Scratch'

Townhall ^ | 07/11/2023 | Katie Pavlich

[SeekAndFind]

The Heritage Foundation is out with a new roadmap on how to reform the FBI as the federal law enforcement agency continues to be embroiled in controversy and civil liberties violations. 

"The FBI’s chilling record of politicized abuses and the executive branch’s continuing misuse of federal intelligence authorities to target the exercise of free speech and other constitutional rights of Americans gives Congress clear and compelling grounds for enacting forceful reforms, starting with the FBI," a recently released Heritage report states about the need for reform. "In fact, the time is ripe for Congress to consider a complete reconstruction of the FBI, defining the scope of its jurisdiction, refocusing its mission on traditional law enforcement, and putting it under effective control. Short of that comprehensive reform, Congress must, at the very least, put in place the minimum set of proposed reforms outlined in this paper, and reauthorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act’s Section 702 offers a perfect vehicle for doing so."

"In the years since 9/11, the Bureau has expanded the scope and use of its own intelligence-gathering powers in dangerous ways, directing them increasingly at political movements that threaten the Washington establishment and at the exercise of constitutionally protected rights by ordinary Americans," the report continues. 

The report offers nearly a dozen elements to "reconstruct" the FBI, including by "limiting the tools of investigation used by the Bureau and prohibit efforts to suppress free speech, religious liberty, and other constitutional rights" and "shifting headcount and resources from Washington to the field offices and consider moving the Bureau’s headquarters out of the national capital area."

It’s time for the FBI to be started over from scratch. Read our plan for Congress to do just that:


https://t.co/ZDUup34uXQ— Heritage Foundation (@Heritage) July 10, 2023

The new plan comes ahead of testimony from FBI Director Christopher Wray this week on Capitol Hill. Members of the House Judiciary Committee have questions about overall FBI corruption and new revelations the Bureau is working with foreign governments and big tech to censor Americans. 

Many Americans have lost count of the numerous FBI scandals uncovered so far.

Our committee has not.

We have critical questions prepared for @DirectorWray on Wednesday. https://t.co/7Ey0dOFZd5— Rep. Mike Johnson (@RepMikeJohnson) July 10, 2023

[Reily]

When the FBI goes the problems that lead to the formation of the FBI will reemerge - that of corrupt local law enforcement as well as inadequate training and equipment. Two things that led to the formation of the FBI. There were others but these two were prominent.

1. Local inability to stop what then was called the “White Slave Trade (human trafficking). The Mann Act was passed create a federal responsibility in stopping it. The National Bureau of Criminal Identification (NCBI) - originally a Pinkerton created organization & later Bureau of Investigation (early form of the FBI) were tasked to aid in fighting this crime. Since they were originally involved in supporting the “regulation of commerce” it seemed they already had the intrastate “skills” to do the job.

If you are concerned about child abductions. The Mann Act was created & passed to fight a similar problem.

2. Osage Murders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon

The incident below is post-FBI formation but it shows the existence and the power of corruption at the local level.

3. Battle of Athens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

Before we wax too nostalgic about this, read the link!
It essentially failed! Things soon after the “Battle” evolved back to the corrupt local ways.

Anyone who thinks our local and state governments are pristine pure needs to step back and think! Even if your local LEO departments are currently “honest” there is no guarantee they will remain so. Salaries in these state\local organization are traditionally low and always will be. This makes them vulnerable to bribery, etc. from criminal organizations and to be influenced by local “politics”. There is always going to be a need for someone or something who has no stake in local “interests” who can be the impartial LEO of last resort. The problem is keeping them “impartial”.

PS
Look how corrupt the urban centers are in regard to elections and now the simple enforcement of the law! The tools to correct it are there what’s lacking is the local & state will. Also, I admit there’s been a lack of federal will here. However, since they are the LEO of last resort its their job!

[RobertoinAL]

HA, that’s a good one. Did you not hear the admission by the CIA of killing JFK?

[Pirate Ragnar]

LAPD and NYPD have no authority in other states. Clearly there are crimes that involve the entire nation; terrorism, human trafficing, threats to the currency etc. There is still need for reform, but federal issues need to be addressed where locals cannot.

[Pirate Ragnar]

“No holding, purchasing or training on weapons of any kind for the FBI.”

Are you kidding? Arrest a terror group with slingshots.

[Pirate Ragnar]

There needs to be uniform responses and communication, not stepping all over everyones toes. This does not mean reform is not needed, but don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.

[mo]

mebbe we no longer need an FBI?

We have 50 states after all.. Fed.gov is becoming more redundant with every passing year at this point..

[PGR88]

Are you kidding? Arrest a terror group with slingshots.

You seem to have missed my point, but anyway, enjoy life under America's KGB

[Pirate Ragnar]

The FBI labs are the finest in thw world. Reform yes, wholesale disbanding no. Scrape the scum off the top and throw roadblocks in fromt of the misuse.

[Sirius Lee]

And no, that does not mean a federal police force

Correct. A federal crime lab that also coordinates certain members of each state's police or investigative bureau who are designated as having cross border investigative and arrest powers.

[Pirate Ragnar]

“Anyone who thinks our local and state governments are pristine pure needs to step back and think!”

Some here would prefer Jackie Gleason to investigate and prosecute federal drug traffic crimes and international children porn.

[Vigilanteman]

Yep, the alphabet agency names changed, but the functions remained the same. I'm counting no less than 14 others during the existence of the old Soviet Union, 1917-1991.

However, the NKVD (1922-1946) and the KGB (1954-1991) are the only two which were famous enough to remember.

[qaz123]

The FBI labs are the finest in the world.

They can’t be duplicated. They can’t be restarted.

Have you ever hear of the FBI crime lab scandal?

2015…. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/csi-is-a-lie/390897/

“Nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000,” the newspaper reported, adding that “the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death.”

But it’s the Atlantic….

So……

http://crimemagazine.com/tainting-evidence-inside-scandals-fbi-crime-lab

https://whistleblowersblog.org/government-whistleblowers/intelligence-community-whistleblowers/dr-whitehurst-and-the-fbi-lab-scandal/amp/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-matches-in-nearly-all-criminal-trials-for-decades/2015/04/18/39c8d8c6-e515-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html

Do you want me to continue?

[Dalberg-Acton]

Scrap the CIA while you’re at it.

[Boogieman]

"We can live with the CIA. Their purpose lies overseas, not within the U.S."

[Boogieman]

And now the FSB does it.

[kvanbrunt2]

The easy way is to build Quonset huts in Nome, AK. Transfer everyone. They get a land phone, cot, Desk, pen, paper, and a portable heater. No internet.

[Chickensoup]

have you been here in the past 10 to 20 years????

[Dr. Sivana]

Why do we need a FEDERAL Bureau of Investigation?

I figured the reputed need came from automobiles. Bonnie and Clyde would go from jurisdiction to jurisdiction in fast cars.

I am not sure who would take the place of investigations in corporate espionage by local actors under the control of foreign actors (I want to limit CIA's involvement locally). For instance, one FBI agent I knew spent most of his time finding Chinese spies in U.S. corporations stealing tech secrets. There might also be use for a federal presence for things like Fentanyl or human trafficking in states that are indifferent to both, but whose consequences are national.

[Joe 6-pack]

The FBI charter has two primary legitimate functions - criminal investigation and counterintelligence. Those two functions should not be under the same agency.

[Pajamajan]

bttt