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Workers, shoppers in San Francisco fed up with products kept in locked cabinets
Hotair ^ | 06/16/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 06/16/2023 8:13:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The problem of rampant shoplifting at San Francisco drug stores, grocery stores and retail stores has become obvious to everyone at this point. And yet, as Beege noticed this morning on Twitter, you still have reports like this one from NBC News about the “perception of crime,” as if the crime isn’t real, it’s just a misperception.

In a report for NBC on the closing of San Francisco's Westfield Mall, correspondent Miguel Almaguer claims it's merely the "perception of crime" as the reason the mall is closing. pic.twitter.com/uzg1eoYng7

— Kevin Tober (@KevinTober94) June 14, 2023

It is fair to say that violent crime remains relatively low in San Francisco, at least compared to other major cities. But low level crime, the car breaks ins which happen dozens of times a day and the constant shoplifting are absolutely real and are some of very worst levels of such crime anywhere in the country. Those crimes aren’t usually lethal (though they sometimes are) but they do create a miserable environment for everyone trying to shop or work in the city. Stores that wish to remain in business don’t have a lot of good choices. You may recall this recent clip taken inside a San Francisco Target store.

How are you supposed to shop in a store like that? The answer is that you ring a buzzer and wait for some employee to run over with a key. That’s a waste of time for customers but it also makes for a very long day for the employees. This week the San Francisco Standard reported that everyone is irritated with the new system.

One worker at Safeway’s Duboce Triangle store told The Standard on Friday he is quitting his job due to the added stress of unlocking items and shepherding them to the checkout for customers. The store at Market and Church streets adds an extra layer of security that means shoppers don’t get to touch some items until they’ve paid for them.

“It’s just too much,” said David MacDowell, who is quitting Safeway after six months…

Customers said they were unhappy with the arrangement, too. Danielle Strauss waited over three minutes on Friday to purchase a single tube of toothpaste from the Castro Safeway.

“Most of the time, I just order this stuff online to avoid going here completely,” Strauss said.

The Standard reporter pushed a button to unlock some laundry detergent. It took 3 1/2 minutes for an employee to show up with the keys. That’s apparently pretty good. One customer said it usually takes 5-10 minutes. Imagine doing that for each item you need to purchase. But the stores have no choice because the alternative is being robbed blind.

“Like every 20 minutes, someone would come and take something and run out,” said a Target staffer in the electronics section, who agreed to speak anonymously because they were not authorized to speak with the press.

“They’ll steal anything that isn’t tied down,” another worker said.

These stores are absolutely going to fail. The problem isn’t Target. The problem is San Francisco. Police barely have time to respond to shoplifting complaints, much less prevent them. Even when they do the people responsible won’t be prosecuted in most cases. It’s a perfect system for the criminal gangs running this from behind the scenes. They make millions and the city just stands back and lets the retailers try to deal with it. This isn’t shoplifting. This is looting with tacit approval from the city.

Occasionally, someone gets fed up with people doing this and tries to intervene.

It’s risky because you don’t know if the shoplifter is armed. Even if they are not, you could be sued for injuring a thief. That’s why most of these stores don’t allow their own employees to get involved in trying to stop a shoplifter. Better to lose the merchandise than to have someone shot or have your store accused of a) racism or b) being cruel to the homeless.

The bottom line here is that San Francisco has been watching this happen for the past three years. Now we’re seeing major retailers downtown throw in the towel and still the city is full of activists and elected officials who would rather rant about solving the underlying problems (over some unknown period of years) than do anything to stop the chaos driving these retailers out right now.

The unfortunate truth is that SF residents created this environment and they’re just starting to realize actions have unintended consequences. Residents did get rid of the progressive DA and woke members of the school board, but that obviously hasn’t been enough to turn this around.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; bideneconomy; cashlessbail; crime; crymore; dystopia; gavinnewsom; idontcare; newsom; newsomfornia; orc; retailcrime; sanfrancisco; shoplifting; shoppers; theft; usualpeople; woke
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To: SeekAndFind

How about a business model where you shop online, pre-pay for your product, and the retailer delivers the product to your door the next day?


21 posted on 06/16/2023 10:29:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind

they should look in the mirror....they have stood by while the animals have ransacked these places....they will not report...they will not identify the animals....


22 posted on 06/16/2023 10:31:41 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How about a business model where you shop online, pre-pay for your product, and the retailer delivers the product to your door the next day?


23 posted on 06/16/2023 11:21:30 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: dfwgator

Yep.

Far more people are shoplifting now because of the big guy’s spectacular economy.
Things are so grim that if I knew how to sneak cans of dog food out, I’d be half tempted myself.
Instead, I just don’t buy things I might want or need because he needs his food more.

/Thanks Joe.


24 posted on 06/16/2023 11:45:47 PM PDT by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF)
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To: PLMerite

The local Walmarts are getting like this and good luck ever finding the keeper of the keys.


25 posted on 06/16/2023 11:47:07 PM PDT by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF)
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To: SeekAndFind
1. Knock three quick raps, followed by two slow raps.

2. Tell the man who answers what you want.

3. Slide the money in the peephole.

4. Wait for him to retrieve the item.


26 posted on 06/16/2023 11:56:58 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: jonrick46
The alarms at the door from security tags and locking carts become white noise to employees. Just like constantly having to unlock cabinets for basic, having to deal with the interruptions of alarms is mentally draining. The solution in parts of Atlanta is the walled off store within a store where you have to checkout your items at that point. At the grocery store it’s not basic food items, I guess because ebt covers that but it’s baby items, hygiene items and cleaning supplies. At least where I was a few years ago they hadn’t moved OTC meds to the store within a store.

As a shopper it’s amazing to be in one location with endless security tv screens and locked down items and going deeper into the suburbs and seeing none of that. That tells me what I need to know about an area. We should all be able to live in places where theft is low and inconvenience is low which means prices should be low. Unfortunately these stores probably subsidize high theft ones. Seeing grocery stores with shops inside is another clue where you are. The mini mall within a grocery store means an attempt to offset operating losses through rent. This is fairly common at Walmart now so I don’t know if it’s a hedge on losses there as much as walking into a grocery store with a salon, nail shop, phone store, etc.

Only intolerance of petty theft will change this situation. The community has to address the issue it faces. It’s not about money. Not in SF.

27 posted on 06/17/2023 1:39:29 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s a radical idea, lock up the thieves instead of the merchandise. I can’t believe no one’s thought of this before.


28 posted on 06/17/2023 3:21:04 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“Here’s a radical idea, lock up the thieves instead of the merchandise.”

SOOO radical! Well said. You could make some bumper stickers and tee shirts.


29 posted on 06/17/2023 3:24:41 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

When we left CA,a lot of the stuff in Walmart was in locked glass cabinets, e.g., printer cartridges, small electronics. We thought that was normal.

When we got to TN, at Walmart nothing was locked. It seems a small thing, but it made shopping so much easier.


30 posted on 06/17/2023 3:29:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: fastrock

Service was an interesting concept. My brother worked at one of those stores for a long time.

It really would cut down on the overhead for businesses — employees, retail floor space vs warehouse space, etc.


31 posted on 06/17/2023 3:33:38 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: jonrick46

“Products should have microchips set to trigger alarms if they have not been purchased. Any person leaving the store would have to go through detection zones.”

I remember when K-Mart did that. SO embarrassing when bells and sirens went off as you walked out of the store — with stuff you had paid for. Someone would have to check your stuff against your receipt, and neutralize the chip thingy before you could leave.

Haven’t seen that setup in a long time. I wonder why it stopped.


32 posted on 06/17/2023 3:39:59 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ingenious! I’ll bet a person could get RICH starting that kind of business. LOL!


33 posted on 06/17/2023 3:42:19 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

They would have never liked shopping at Service Merchandise!


34 posted on 06/17/2023 3:43:33 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: SeekAndFind

Prop 47 was passed 8 years ago (legalize theft up to $950 per store). I’m surprised it took this long to see the effects …


35 posted on 06/17/2023 4:06:37 AM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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To: cherry

You mean like these animals? I ahve to admit they may be lousy at life but they are hard working criminals.

https://www.insideedition.com/20853-suspected-shoplifter-caught-outside-ikea-with-frying-pan-stuffed-down-her-leggings-cops


36 posted on 06/17/2023 4:11:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

But - once the merchandise is released, what’s to stop the person from stealing it anyway? Do they have folks escorting them all the way to the registers?


37 posted on 06/17/2023 4:41:53 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: SeekAndFind
All of this is version 1.0 of the retailer response to theft. Somewhere along the line the shopper will receive a fob or token with an order # in it; press the fob against a screen to ID what you want to buy, along with quantity. Press "End" when you are done shopping. Proceed to pickup and settlement area, where somebody in the back room has picked and packed your order.

The retailer has the alternative of abandoning the store location. Somebody will come up this or something similar in order to keep retail available in bad neighborhoods with high theft rates. And this could be used for groceries as well as toothpaste, so it could be the answer to food deserts.

38 posted on 06/17/2023 5:04:08 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pissed because it makes it harder to steal.


39 posted on 06/17/2023 5:04:54 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a solution for Target. Have a secure window with bullet proof glass like a Bodega. Walk up window. No more open browsing.

What a lovely world this liberal utopia we were promised is.


40 posted on 06/17/2023 5:07:10 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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